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Maybe I'm following this election campaign more than usual, but has there ever been a more blatant series of vote-buying policies than the one the Tories are currently waging?

Millions of houses would be “given away” to low-paid workers under Tory plans to reward people who come off benefits.
Iain Duncan Smith, the work and pensions secretary, is pushing for a pledge to “gift” tenants their council home after a year in work to be included in the Tory manifesto.
Such tenants would cease to be eligible for housing benefit and would have to pay 35 per cent of the sale proceeds in tax if they sold their property within three years, according to one model under discussion. In later years, the amount of tax paid would fall.
All money raised would be ploughed back into the housing market. Proponents argue that the saving in housing benefit and the sales tax receipts, boosted by house inflation, would almost outweigh the cost.

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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4351595.ece

Edited by Eddie_George

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The fact that nonsense like this makes the front page of a national newspaper shows how messed up things are. We are reaching levels of propaganda and disinformation that Hitler would be embarrassed by.

There really is no way back for this country that I can see.

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If the Tories are so nice and aspirational wanting everyone to own their council home or just giving them away now, why don't they 'kin well build some more?

It's because they're bribing people and selling off state assets that should benefit others eventually. They hate the idea of social housing. A home where working class people don't have to work 2 lifetimes to pay it off, a safety net in times of hardship.

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I haven't really been following Labour's electioneering promises, but the Tory ones to me seem to the be result of a desperate government with no money trying to bullsh1t stupid people. In the last week or so we've had:

1. Cameron saying that businesses benefitting from a drop in the oil price should pass the savings onto their employees

2. Cameron asking businesses to give their employees a pay rise

3. IDS offering to give you a free house after a year in work.

Only the genuinely, terminally stupid would be impressed by any of these.

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Iain Duncan Smith is 'pushing for this' and 'pushing for that'

I just wish he'd "push off"

Actually, that article, which I think is more about IDS than anything else, may bring about his demise even faster.

Edited by LiveinHope

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And when all the council houses have been sold off, what happens to the benefits bill?

Morons.

It goes up another 400% like it did after the last big sell off?

Great policy this.

Can't wait for the 100 billion HB bill in 15-20 years time...

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"...savings in housing benefit and the sales tax receipts, boosted by house inflation, would almost outweigh the cost."

"Soaring house prices and a requirement for hefty deposits have made...difficult for well-paid FTBs...virtually impossible for most low-income workers"

hmmmm. More econopolitics & divide and rule policy.

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I was going to make a clever comment along the lines of 'Oh, that's a free market solution, then', or history repeating itself, or something.

But this is just way too far beyond parady.

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It feels more and more like socialism.

better to just get a job with the government at all cost as soon we will be getting the council choosing who gets mrotgages and who gets business loans.

Like in other countries where this happens it will be good to have your hands on that cash for the kickbacks etc.

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All money raised would be ploughed back into the housing market

Yes, probably to increase HPI.

I suspect this is one of those floater ideas designed to confuse and misinform voters. It'll magically transform from a vague idea to manifesto commitment in some people's minds (and so make them more likely to vote Tory) - but really there never anything more than some speculative crap in a newspaper.

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There's also a (subtle) acknowledgement by the proponents that selling off council houses helps drive house inflation in there to boot.

Of course it does.

No council housing is the BTL dream.

We need more not less, and I bloody hate socialism!

Council housing is simply the lesser of two evils.

Living in a council house used to be considered disadvantageous and undesirable.

Folk now queue to get into them because private rents are so much higher (and the other consequence of HB is that there's no stigma to being on it as it's not tied to undesirable areas and so many people need it these days anyway as wages and "proper" full time jobs are in the toilet).

I'm sure the queue will get longer still if there's a chance the state will just hand the keys over to you at some point.

A policy made even more stupid because it refuses to learn from the (very obvious) failings of the last time it was implemented.

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Unbelievable, so those with a council house get given effectively hundreds of thousands, and I get given the square root of f*ck all because I'm not part of the client state.

I'm never voting for those smeggers ever again.

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Unbelievable, so those with a council house get given effectively hundreds of thousands, and I get given the square root of f*ck all because I'm not part of the client state.

I'm never voting for those smeggers ever again.

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Unbelievable, so those with a council house get given effectively hundreds of thousands, and I get given the square root of f*ck all because I'm not part of the client state.

I'm never voting for those smeggers ever again.

I once had a 'careers' conversation with a teenager who said to me "I'm not going to get a job, that's [providing money] what the government's for"

Thinking that way wasn't the teenager's fault. It is an institutionalised viewpoint.

And there is always an election coming.

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I once had a 'careers' conversation with a teenager who said to me "I'm not going to get a job, that's [providing money] what the government's for"

Thinking that way wasn't the teenager's fault. It is an institutionalised viewpoint.

And there is always an election coming.

Wise lad! :P

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:) In a way, yes. But it's an existence, not a life.

****** working 2000 hours a year and not being able to afford what you can get given is an existence and a crap one at that.

I'd advise kids to play the system, borrow tens of thousands and go bankrupt every 8 years, possibly grow some weed for a sideline of about 10-15K a year.

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****** working 2000 hours a year and not being able to afford what you can get given is an existence and a crap one at that.

I'd advise kids to play the system, borrow tens of thousands and go bankrupt every 8 years, possibly grow some weed for a sideline of about 10-15K a year.

I'd advise both cases to get a backpack, a tent, some walking boots and WorkAway

Edited by LiveinHope

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Kitchen sinks at the ready!

Smacks of desperation doesn't it. How can we win a majority? Let's give away the last few remaining council houses, and maybe the electorate will vote for us one last time.

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