interestrateripoff Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/samsungs-new-smart-tv-policy-allows-company-to-listen-in-on-users-10033012.html The new privacy policy for Samsung’s smart TVs allows the company and its partners to listen in on everything their users say. The policy has drawn the ire of internet users, who compared it with George Orwell’s dystopian fiction 1984. While voice recognition software almost always transmits data on what users are saying — so that the job of decoding it can be done by quicker computers elsewhere — the combination of sending the data to third-parties and the comparison with Orwell has meant that the Samsung policy has drawn particular attention. The policy states: “Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition.” It makes clear that the tool can be turned off through settings, though that will stop the voice recognition working entirely and Samsung will still continue to collect data about how people use the TV. “While Samsung will not collect your spoken word, Samsung may still collect associated texts and other usage data so that we can evaluate the performance of the feature and improve it,” the policy states. Sadly I wonder how many people will actually care? Not sure why anyone would want voice recognition on the TV, too much effort to press the buttons on the remote??? Still all good news for the NSA and GCHQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Makes me glad I use a black and white Ferguson CRT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 It's taken a long time for the mainstream media to pick up on this story. Alex Jones reported it over 3 months ago http://alexjones.co/alex-jones-2014-nov-03-monday/ Jones rattles out a lot of rubbish sometimes, but on other occasions is well ahead of the herd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/samsungs-new-smart-tv-policy-allows-company-to-listen-in-on-users-10033012.html Sadly I wonder how many people will actually care? Not sure why anyone would want voice recognition on the TV, too much effort to press the buttons on the remote??? Still all good news for the NSA and GCHQ. VR TVs will come with two remotes anyway. Some of the TVs, you have to shout at, so they aren't entirely accurate...It'll be the same situation with Microsoft's Cortana, Apple's Siri, Amazon TV, Google's app (whatever its called) and so on...Of course they'll use your data. I wouldn't expect anything less.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 If find this very worrying Gesture Control. To provide you with the ability to control your SmartTV through gestures, the camera mounted on the top of your SmartTV can recognise your movements. This enables you, for example, to move between panels and zoom in or zoom out. We record information about when and how users use gesture controls so that we can evaluate the performance of these controls and improve them. Facial Recognition. The camera situated on the SmartTV also enables you to authenticate your Samsung Account or to log into certain services using facial recognition technology. You can use facial recognition instead of, or as a supplementary security measure in addition to, manually inputting your password. Once you complete the steps required to set up facial recognition, an image of your face is stored locally on your TV; it is not transmitted to Samsung. If you cancel your Samsung Account or no longer desire to use facial recognition, please visit the applicable settings menu to delete the stored image. While your image will be stored locally, Samsung may take note of the fact that you have set up the feature and collect information about when and how the feature is used so that we can evaluate the performance of this feature and improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUBanana Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Just as well I don't have a TV. I think people will be clueless about this until the iron fist inside the velvet glove actually starts doing things people don't like, on a large scale. Which may or may not actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Bear Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Someone on R4 yesterday was saying that his voice activated facility didn't work very well anyway, so he had disabled it, which was easy enough to do. Why would anyone want a voice activated TV anyway, unless they are disabled? Though I suppose it saves having to hunt for the remote down the side of the sofa, under the cat, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Someone on R4 yesterday was saying that his voice activated facility didn't work very well anyway, so he had disabled it, which was easy enough to do. Why would anyone want a voice activated TV anyway, unless they are disabled? Though I suppose it saves having to hunt for the remote down the side of the sofa, under the cat, etc. Still no idea why no one has used my location idea for TV remotes. Sent to Sony years ago - not interested. Same as they already use for cordless phones etc. Lost it - press button on TV - beeps till you find it. No idea why it wasn't a goer !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectrumFX Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Still no idea why no one has used my location idea for TV remotes. Sent to Sony years ago - not interested. Same as they already use for cordless phones etc. Lost it - press button on TV - beeps till you find it. No idea why it wasn't a goer !! Nice idea. As a practical diy alternative you could sellotape one of these to your remote;http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tobar-Keyfinder-Keyring-Whistle-Activated/dp/B000246JIQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 If TVs can could phones?...... I don't have a clever smart phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Still no idea why no one has used my location idea for TV remotes. Sent to Sony years ago - not interested. Same as they already use for cordless phones etc. Lost it - press button on TV - beeps till you find it. No idea why it wasn't a goer !! Presumably because it would make the remote control much more expensive. For the TV to be able to talk back to a hidden remote control it would need to have some kind of radio receiver added to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendy Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 If TVs can could phones?...... I don't have a clever smart phone. Sure, why not. What motions a phone would pickup inside one's pocket could boggle one's mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 So stick some blu tac over the camera and mic as you would a laptop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sure, why not. What motions a phone would pickup inside one's pocket could boggle one's mind! If you have a phone, you're easily trackable, and if you have gps turned on, you can be narrowed down to a few metres...Its really interesting, the way they caught Ian Huntley.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3303637.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobloblob Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Who is this "third party" with whom Samsung shares information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sounds like another completely stupid and pointless bit of "progress" which will worm its way into most of the country thanks to idiots thinking everything has to be as high tech as possible and who don't have enough respect for themselves to even be bothered by privacy issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Well now you have inspired me! I have a Samsung TV, and I'm not sure how "smart" it is. I shall try putting a dumb hub between the TV and my router, and "sniff packets" (no innuendo intended!), using Wireshark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 How long before they put in a camera and TV starts watching YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 How long before they put in a camera and TV starts watching YOU. I believe some do have cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuggets Mahoney Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Who is this "third party" with whom Samsung shares information? Three guesses. Rather than slagging off Samsung as some people are doing it might actually be one of the good(er) guys by warning people about what it's been obliged to do. Other corporations might not be quite so candid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbone Glover Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Three guesses. 1 NSA 2 GCHQ 3 Other national security services 'for our own good'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Bugger the Internet. I'm going back to shortwave radio. GCHQ have sold all their radio receivers on EBay, and are now obsessed by the internet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobloblob Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Three guesses. Rather than slagging off Samsung as some people are doing it might actually be one of the good(er) guys by warning people about what it's been obliged to do. Other corporations might not be quite so candid. LG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 LG? Crikey. I have one of their washing machines. Perhaps they can see my dirty laundry? Still it won't talk to the Samsung television, or will it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobloblob Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Crikey. I have one of their washing machines. Perhaps they can see my dirty laundry? Still it won't talk to the Samsung television, or will it? There's every chance it will bitch about your Samsung TV and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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