corevalue Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 On that day, Golding also wore a political uniform in the form of a Britain First members only jacket, which is an offence under the Public Order Act 1936. Is there a list of political uniforms? Is it Ok to wear a red or blue tie, or a coloured rossette? ed forgot linky http://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/Britain-leader-Paul-Golding-guilty/story-25808029-detail/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The word "also" in your quote suggests you might be misleading us. On the other hand, this country's treatment of Stephen Gough demonstrates serious intolerance of someone who diverges from sartorial norms. Our powers-that-be like to pretend they're better than the Saudis, but their actions say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The public order act 1936 was probably enacted with uniform clause to combat the nazis in UK, led by Oswald Mosley. The green jacket in the picture looks a lot like my Ambo uniform jacket though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerner Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Fined for wearing a flat cap? Best not try that around here - the kids are born with them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corevalue Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 The word "also" in your quote suggests you might be misleading us. On the other hand, this country's treatment of Stephen Gough demonstrates serious intolerance of someone who diverges from sartorial norms. Our powers-that-be like to pretend they're better than the Saudis, but their actions say otherwise. He was fined £325 for harassement, but also fined £100 for wearing a "political uniform". If it was a true "uniform" all those wearing it would be identical, boots, trousers, jackets etc., which doesn't seem to be the case. It gets muddied because on the jacket there is a badge, which I have read is a Crown symbol and they have been told not to wear that. They seem a particularly unpleasant lot, but the question is: what is a "uniform", is it anything TPTB declare to be one? Which is why I asked about ties and rossettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erat_forte Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The Orange Order never seems to have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 We should harrass criminals. Jehovers witnesses shun offenders of their faith. The issue here was that the harrassed wasnt the target criminal, then again, was she hiding a terrist?..if so, she should be harrassed and shamed out. Never heard of the political uniform offence, then again, we have so many laws its likely that merely walking down the street with a smile is an offence under some statute, byelaw or some twist of the public order act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerner Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Never heard of the political uniform offence, then again, we have so many laws its likely that merely walking down the street with a smile is an offence under some statute, byelaw or some twist of the public order act. Seems you just can't win ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Seems you just can't win ... LOL...that wasnt what I had in mind...but brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Wearing the wrong uniform...Only these guys can harass and get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Just checked wikipedia and it is indeed a law dating from the 1930s: The Public Order Act 1936 (1 Edw. 8 & 1 Geo. 6 c. 6) I assumed this would have been some Blairite thing slipped into the statutes while we weren't looking. Apparently some IRA supporters were arrested for wearing black berets under this law. How did Wolfie out of 'Citizen Smith' get away with it?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Wearing the wrong uniform...Only these guys can harass and get away with it. the police are apolitical..well they were until we elected a politician to oversee things in each county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Just checked wikipedia and it is indeed a law dating from the 1930s: The Public Order Act 1936 (1 Edw. 8 & 1 Geo. 6 c. 6) I assumed this would have been some Blairite thing slipped into the statutes while we weren't looking. Apparently some IRA supporters were arrested for wearing black berets under this law. How did Wolfie out of 'Citizen Smith' get away with it?' Because he wasn't in the IRA. He was in the Tooting Popular Front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 the police are apolitical..well they were until we elected a politician to oversee things in each county. Sure...'Sir' Ian Blair had no political leanings whatsoever. And there are absolutely no freemasons infesting their ranks either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sure...'Sir' Ian Blair had no political leanings whatsoever. And there are absolutely no freemasons infesting their ranks either... Freemasons scandal is all about favouritism, not politics per se. Ian Blair was in the Met, which alone among forces, is under the Home Secretary. To deny that anybody has no political leanings is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 So if a Labour party member wears a red tie or a Conservative a blue then you can lock them up? Result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Look. I'm not a Mason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/britain-first-donning-the-uniform-of-victimhood/16479#.VMK-zkesXh4 Since I'm a bloody-minded tosser I'm definitely going to attend a few political events / rallies etc. in the run up to the election with my inkjet printed copy of the Public Order Act 1936: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Edw8and1Geo6/1/6/section/1 ...and if anyone is wearing a t-shirt etc. declaring allegiance to any political party, ask them if they've obtained an order from the chief officer of police with the consent of the Secretary of State. And if not, I'll march up to the first copper I see and demand that action is taken. It's only fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Hmm i didn't realise the flat cap carried such a connotation. But actuallly we are all wearing them now aren't we. Personally i stick to a rather invisible three quid Primark job. But to stand out from the crowd, this seems to be the way it is going, supersized Edwardian style............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 22/01/2015 at 9:25 AM, Bossybabe said: The public order act 1936 An Act to prohibit the wearing of uniforms in connection with political objects and the maintenance by private persons of associations of military or similar character; and to make further provision for the preservation of public order on the occasion of public processions and meetings and in public places. Says wiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, SarahBell said: An Act to prohibit the wearing of uniforms in connection with political objects and the maintenance by private persons of associations of military or similar character; and to make further provision for the preservation of public order on the occasion of public processions and meetings and in public places. Says wiki. Is Jihad military? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePiltdownMan Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 There is a theory that some of these groups are headed up by people working for the intelligence services. You will notice everything they do - street protests, demos outside of mosques, and generally being obnoxious - is counterproductive to their stated aims. They end up falling foul of the law for trivial, almost nonsensical things like this. Similar to how Tommy Robinson was questioned by UK police after he held up a "F*** ISIS" flag in France during last years football matches. The whole thing is staged in order to gain them credibility and sympathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turned Out Nice Again Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I miss poster Corevalue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 So the uniform being an offence means that if you have what might be called a rally then you are forced to shout slogans very loud to demonstrate solidarity with each other? - or allow the police to corral you all into one place to demonstrate that you all belong to the same group? - or all hold placards with the same/similar messages? Incidentally that public order act of 1936 got Royal Assent in December 1936 shortly after the Jarrow march when they all seemed to wear flat caps. They still sell them in the shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 So who says an item is political dress? What about a hijab? If a group started wearing them as a political outfit, would they all be banned or is it the stitching on of a logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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