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Whatever Happened To Sony Laptops

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I think I'm about done with "devices" - phones, tablets etc.

My iPad is basically useless following an OS upgrade that I now apparently cannot regress.

I looked at the Microsoft Surface things. Even if I could make do with a tiny display, they're, er, £650+.

Which gets a nice laptop. So, laptop it is then.

So I go to buy a Sony Vaio one and it looks like they've stopped making them.

Can this be true.. I'd rather have a lower spec Sony one than the latest no-name crap from Currys with a keyboard that will be broken in less than a year. It was always the keyboards that attracted me to the Sony ones.

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Not sure but probably somehow the fault of North Korea.

I have had the same problem with apple os upgrades. Been caught previously with things I used regularly no longer working after upgrades so now don't upgrade then gets to the point that apps I do use are upgraded and need the later ios version all very irritating.

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I think that the cut off date for regression back to iOS7 has passed now. Might be a way to "hack it" I guess.

I barely use it, it was a novelty really. About the only thing I did use it for, was browsing this forum, but now it struggles even with that. Opening a web page with more than one Flash video embedded in it just crashes the browser. It has "gone all Android". To be fair I suspect the issues are with Flash more so than iOS, but the Safari browser is poor and just shuts itself down, it does not "handle" the problems. The model that I have is not really up to running iOS8 anyway, it makes the whole thing slow and laggy.

There's a reset function but that's not a hard/factory reset, the current OS remains.

Its main practical, real use is as a remote desktop tool for when I'm out and about. It does that OK but the lack of a mouse and proper keyboard prevails.

Looks like the new Vaio laptops are to be Japan only for now.

A nearly new second hand Sony Vaio with a 17" screen would be ideal. I shall go shopping.

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Herself bought an Asus I3 laptop with 4 gigs although only a 750 gig drive in Staples last week for a shade under £250. Good screen and keybord and the W8.1 touchscreen actually makes it useable without plugging in a mouse.

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HP Probook's are pretty sturdy, have that chunky feel (with the additional numeric keypad). Mine's an ex-work one that I bought off them when I left last year. Probably 3/4 years old now but stays on 24/7 running a PVR server and never misses a beat.

I know what you mean about VAIO's though, but they did make some clangers. Towards the end they were competing with the ACER's of this world and I bought my wife one for c£350 one year that I've taken apart twice (once to fix the AC connector to the motherboard which had cracked and the other when the HD fried).

On the other hand my parents have got one that's c3/4 years old and it's almost identical in feel to my probook, sturdy as they come.

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Personally, I reckon you've had a lucky escape. I've often found Sony to be unreliable, appalling driver support and blooming expensive.

I no longer automatically update older Apple devices as a result of previous failures. I wait for the other beta testers first.

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Can this be true.. I'd rather have a lower spec Sony one than the latest no-name crap from Currys with a keyboard that will be broken in less than a year. It was always the keyboards that attracted me to the Sony ones.

Get an Asus or Acer instead.

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I think I'm about done with "devices" - phones, tablets etc.

My iPad is basically useless following an OS upgrade that I now apparently cannot regress.

I looked at the Microsoft Surface things. Even if I could make do with a tiny display, they're, er, £650+.

Which gets a nice laptop. So, laptop it is then.

So I go to buy a Sony Vaio one and it looks like they've stopped making them.

Can this be true.. I'd rather have a lower spec Sony one than the latest no-name crap from Currys with a keyboard that will be broken in less than a year. It was always the keyboards that attracted me to the Sony ones.

There is no branding they are all the same , open up a sony laptop and you will find a system board made by hannstar , which is a sister company of hannspree. a screen made by chi mei or samsung or auo and harddrive manufacture is a lottery.

samsung is pretty good since they make pretty much all the components anyway , sony make nothing apart from a few dvd or blu ray drives

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There is no branding they are all the same , open up a sony laptop and you will find a system board made by hannstar , which is a sister company of hannspree. a screen made by chi mei or samsung or auo and harddrive manufacture is a lottery.

samsung is pretty good since they make pretty much all the components anyway , sony make nothing apart from a few dvd or blu ray drives

Does that really matter? Like them or loathe them, Apple probably have the best build quality and yet you could say exactly the same about them. It's more about quality control in the supply chain than who makes the components.

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Does that really matter? Like them or loathe them, Apple probably have the best build quality and yet you could say exactly the same about them. It's more about quality control in the supply chain than who makes the components.

well if it does not matter why even consider a sony laptop in the first place , surely it should be down to spec and price

acer probably the best bang for buck , i wont buy any apple products too proprietary for me

i buy broken ones and repair them anyway , bought a samsung core i3 for £35 £3 to repair :lol:

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Sony got out of the consumer laptop game and sold off the Vaio brand to a Japanese company. Vaio laptops are supposed to come back on the market but they're starting off in Asia apparently. (More info: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/386932/sony-exits-pc-market-with-vaio-salehttp://www.cnet.com/uk/news/vaio-pro-and-fit-are-first-vaio-laptops-since-being-sold-off-by-sony/)

I've got a Sony laptop (SB) that's about 4 years old now and still going strong, it's a good machine. However, a lot of their lower end stuff is supposed to be rubbish. My mother has one she got a year or two ago and it's been in for repair about 4 times!

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Vaios got a bad rep with overheating. They tried to build to quality - at least on the outside but the designs often ended up compromised. Don't quite know where Sony going as a company.

Still rate Dell for cost / quality.

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I think a lot of manufacturers make models aimed specifically at business folk. All of the work laptop's I've had have been tough as nails ( not like the discount bargain basement ones you get from retail).

The only issue with the ones I've used is they all ran like dogs because most corporate IT managers pile on enough security and encryption as to render them practically useless.

Since you wouldn't need any of that i think you'd be fine if you can get your hands on one.

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It was the keyboard specifically that attracted me to the Sony kit.

I've had maybe four laptops in the past and the common failure point is always the keyboard, with the most used keys stopping working. The one we have now is like that. Everything else works fine.

It's an Asus but then it was quite a cheap one I think (£300 a few years back). The same happened to my Acer one (bit dearer but still quite cheap) though that fared better lasting about a year with daily usage.

But then those were at the cheap end of the market, and it doesn't mean to say that everything they make fails like that, Acer did some quite high end ones as I recall. And I'm not planning on using it heavily anyway.

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It was the keyboard specifically that attracted me to the Sony kit.

I've had maybe four laptops in the past and the common failure point is always the keyboard, with the most used keys stopping working. The one we have now is like that. Everything else works fine.

It's an Asus but then it was quite a cheap one I think (£300 a few years back). The same happened to my Acer one (bit dearer but still quite cheap) though that fared better lasting about a year with daily usage.

But then those were at the cheap end of the market, and it doesn't mean to say that everything they make fails like that, Acer did some quite high end ones as I recall. And I'm not planning on using it heavily anyway.

change the keyboard

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Vaios got a bad rep with overheating. They tried to build to quality - at least on the outside but the designs often ended up compromised. Don't quite know where Sony going as a company.

Still rate Dell for cost / quality.

service lets Dell down badly.

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Must admit, I've never had to deal with their service department.

Yep. I think most PCs are reasonably reliable these days...Ive never bought a Dell, partly because they dont give a toss about the trade, but because of the repairs I have been involved in...whats worrying, was the number that were IN warranty and the support (on site or not) meant a long time on the phone, the client doing rebuilds and data recovery, and in one case, 24 hr on site recovery meaning a couple of broken appointments then a local turning up expecting an entirely different job.

I think this was why they lost their number 1 spot some time ago.

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