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Revelations From The Torture Report – Cia Lies, Nazi Methods And The $81 Million No-Bid Torture Contract

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By the time the CIA terminated their contract in 2009, the consulting firm founded by the two men had collected $81 million in taxpayer money. In May of that year, ProPublica reported, the firm abruptly gave up the lease on its Spokane, Washington, headquarters and disconnected the phone.

Still, according to the Senate report, the CIA will provide $5 million in indemnity costs to the firm to cover all legal expenses for potential criminal prosecution and investigations through 2021.

– From the Huffington Post article: Architects Of CIA Torture Program Raked In $81 Million, Report Reveals

One of the greatest propaganda successes of the consolidated and corporate owned mainstream media in the US. has been its ability to convince many naive Americans that people with fascist tendencies do not exist in our society, and it they do, they certainly don’t reside in the highest halls of power.

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This post will be spilt into three separate parts, each of which will zero in on a separate aspect of what we have learned from the report. The first part goes back to an article in the Atlantic from 2007 titled: “Verschärfte Vernehmung.” Verschärfte Vernehmung in German translates to something like “enhanced interrogation”, and the article explains the disturbing similarities of what the U.S. government did to what the Nazis did in Germany a generation ago. First take a look at the following:

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More from The Atlantic:

The phrase “Verschärfte Vernehmung” is German for “enhanced interrogation”. Other translations include “intensified interrogation” or “sharpened interrogation”.
It’s a phrase that appears to have been concocted in 1937, to describe a form of torture that would leave no marks, and hence save the embarrassment pre-war Nazi officials were experiencing as their wounded torture victims ended up in court.
The methods, as you can see above, are indistinguishable from those described as “enhanced interrogation techniques” by the president. As you can see from the Gestapo memo, moreover, the Nazis were adamant that their “enhanced interrogation techniques” would be carefully restricted and controlled, monitored by an elite professional staff, of the kind recommended by Charles Krauthammer, and strictly reserved for certain categories of prisoner. At least, that was the original plan.

Also: the use of hypothermia, authorized by Bush and Rumsfeld, was initially forbidden. ‘Waterboarding” was forbidden too, unlike that authorized by Bush. As time went on, historians have found that all the bureaucratic restrictions were eventually broken or abridged. Once you start torturing, it has a life of its own. The “cold bath” technique – the same as that used by Bush against al-Qahtani in Guantanamo – was, according to professor Darius Rejali of Reed College,

In Norway, we actually have a 1948 court case that weighs whether “enhanced interrogation” using the methods approved by president Bush amounted to torture. The proceedings are fascinating, with specific reference to the hypothermia used in Gitmo, and throughout interrogation centers across the field of conflict.
The Nazi defense of the techniques is almost verbatim that of the Bush administration…

Freezing prisoners to near-death, repeated beatings, long forced-standing, waterboarding, cold showers in air-conditioned rooms, stress positions [Arrest mit Verschaerfung], withholding of medicine and leaving wounded or sick prisoners alone in cells for days on end – all these have occurred at US detention camps under the command of president George W. Bush. Over a hundred documented deaths have occurred in these interrogation sessions. The Pentagon itself has conceded homocide by torture in multiple cases. Notice the classic, universal and simple criterion used to define torture in 1948.

What I am reporting is a simple empirical fact: the interrogation methods approved and defended by this president are not new. Many have been used in the past. The very phrase used by the president to describe torture-that-isn’t-somehow-torture – “enhanced interrogation techniques” – is a term originally coined by the Nazis. The techniques are indistinguishable. The methods were clearly understood in 1948 as war-crimes. The punishment for them was death.

Back in 2007 when that Atlantic article was written, a large percentage of people were willing to give the U.S. government and the CIA the benefit of the doubt. That’s not the case today, which is why I am hopeful that the Senate report, along with the Snowden revelations, will ultimately force the public to admit to itself it has been propagandized and things aren’t as they are told on the television set. Only if we know there is a problem can we start to fix it.

It was torture for tortures sake, nothing to do with extracting intelligence.

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Indeed - he probably had a good tug over the thought of it as well.

If I had to try and defend him it's that he loves his fellow Americans that much he'd do whatever neccessary to protect them, though I've no doubt if there was no 'terrorist brown people' he'd be able to find a few natives to do the same too.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-10/torture-report-revives-rogue-image-the-cia-has-sought-to-erase.html

This week’s Senate report on the CIA’s use of harsh interrogation methods is neither the first nor the worst time the agency has run afoul of its congressional overseers.

Four decades ago, a series of hearings on Capitol Hill helped reveal that the CIA-run Phoenix Program in South Vietnam, working in concert with the U.S. and South Vietnamese militaries, had “neutralized” -- killed, detained or recruited -- as many as 80,000 people suspected of being members of the Communist Vietcong and used gang rape, beatings and electric shock as well as waterboarding to interrogate prisoners.

Then in 1975 and 1976, a Senate panel took a broader look into the dark side of the Central Intelligence Agency and found that the nation’s spies seemed to have few limits, with covert activities that included plotting to assassinate foreign leaders, domestic spying and LSD experiments on unwitting subjects.

The Church committee, the investigative panel named for Democratic chairman Frank Church of Idaho, published 14 reports on CIA activities, including efforts to kill leaders in Cuba, Chile, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Dominican Republic and Vietnam; a secret program to open Americans’ mail; and a mind-control program called MKULTRA.

At least they left gang rape of the list this time.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-10/rectal-feeding-of-detainees-called-abuse-with-guise-of-treatment.html

The revelation that U.S. interrogators force-fed terrorism suspects through their rectums outraged human-rights activists and doctors, who called it an outdated practice with no legitimate medical rationale.

Rectal feeding was performed on at least five detainees, none with documented conditions that made it medically necessary, according to a report released by Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee. Others were also threatened with rectal rehydration, according to cables and records.

While rectal hydration may be used in emergency situations, it’s not the first-, second- or even third-best option, said Allen Keller, director of the Bellevue/New York University Program for Survivors of Torture. It’s clear in the context of the report that there were ulterior motives in the decision to use the technique, he said.

“This was done not solely for therapeutic reasons but as another form of abuse or humiliation,” Keller said. “Given the circumstances, this is sodomy with the intention of humiliation under the guise of medical treatment.”

Until this report came out I had no idea you could "feed" someone rectally.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-10/rectal-feeding-of-detainees-called-abuse-with-guise-of-treatment.html

Until this report came out I had no idea you could "feed" someone rectally.

Hummus, pasta and raisins apparently. So, an Halal menu then.

Unfortunately, the sad truth is that history tells us that torture works.

How else would we have ever got all those witches and bourgeois counter-revolutionaries to confess?

The only thing I'm not clear on is why the Military Industrial Complex is publicly admitting that it tortured people, sometimes the wrong people, yielding no useful information (who would have guessed?) and repeatedly lied that torture was saving lives?

Why the uncharacteristic candour and why now?

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The only thing I'm not clear on is why the Military Industrial Complex is publicly admitting that it tortured people, sometimes the wrong people, yielding no useful information (who would have guessed?) and repeatedly lied that torture was saving lives?

Because they know that no-one will get punished for it, and now they can promise not to be naughty boys in the future, and 'move on'?

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I do not consider the CIA's action as a War Crime. This is because the USA did not formally declare war.

I instead consider the CIA's conduct to be terrorism.

Also, after WWII, the International Military Tribunal sentenced some Japanese soldiers to death for torturing US POW's by using waterboarding.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2007/dec/18/john-mccain/history-supports-mccains-stance-on-waterboarding/

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If you dig out the taguba report on Abu ghraib, you will find references to a 14 year old boy being sodomised by a broom handle, and I seem to recall a fluorescent light. It also indicated as I recall the rape of quite a lot of folk both male and female. Though I understand that to be derigour in US detention and military circles.

I also read quite a few reports of threatened or actual harm and rape to family members, including children, allegations common tto the current report. Given it is 6000 pages long, and not fully published, there's considerable scope for skullduggery....

On the upside, the US are the goodies, so it can't be all that bad.

And torture works wonders, just look at how Jack Bauer kept saving the world - no way without torture could he do it, and it never did him any harm either.

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I do not consider the CIA's action as a War Crime. This is because the USA did not formally declare war.

Not to condone what happened but that's not a good argument. Formal declarations of war were a brief fad. You've got a war if you've got a lot of fighting, not because of what someone said.

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Hummus, pasta and raisins apparently. So, an Halal menu then.

Unfortunately, the sad truth is that history tells us that torture works.

How else would we have ever got all those witches and bourgeois counter-revolutionaries to confess?

The only thing I'm not clear on is why the Military Industrial Complex is publicly admitting that it tortured people, sometimes the wrong people, yielding no useful information (who would have guessed?) and repeatedly lied that torture was saving lives?

Why the uncharacteristic candour and why now?

The first thing that sprang to mind is they are covering up something even more horrific than torturing people for the sake of it.

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they've moved on a bit since then.

weaponised music is very effective(can take on many different connotations from the whole of leonard cohen's almanac back to back to cause depression and despair, to barney the dinosaur on loop for hours on end to cause madness)

(if it was me performing the interrogation I would probably have them given a quality set of headphones to listen to some nice depressing arabic music howling to them in farsi/arabic...."the infidel are still alive, you promised me..you failed me,..I won't let you into valhalla for this treachery...you shame your family..you no good piece of sh*t...you don't measure up even though you talk a good talk ,..go back to being a playstation jihadi, that's all you're fit for, you're not good enough for my army etc etc..)

absolutely no physical scars, but mentally crushing.

heavy metal works too.but only for the soldiers being trained to beat the crap out of people.

for prisoners and those you wish to interrogate, you need methods of persuading them that they are a lost cause and all is hopeless.- metal causes anger reactions which is not appropriate in these surroundings...you want them to give up,not fight

technically it's not classed as torture either(although a good number of people subjected to hours of jeremy kyle/I'm a celebrity and property porn might with the benefit of hindsight see that it is/was)

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I wonder what Blair and his security services knew of all this.

blair rather relished his role as part of the inquisition.

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Not to condone what happened but that's not a good argument. Formal declarations of war were a brief fad. You've got a war if you've got a lot of fighting, not because of what someone said.

OK, they ae war crminals, not terrorists.

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The first thing that sprang to mind is they are covering up something even more horrific than torturing people for the sake of it.

hence my method works.

if they are not religeously driven by allah or whatever to commit these atrocities they will not take the insulting lyrics in the music personally.

to a fanatic they will believe they are hearing the voice of god tell them they are a waste of space.

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It is rather odd that modern western society that professes to loath torture then allows it to be used with almost no controls while in past societies where torture was an accepted part of the judicial process it practise was often more closely regulated. Moreover, medieval torture was at least goal orientated since it was more interested in the confession than in the infliction of suffering so if the victim agreed to cooperate after being 'shown the instruments' then groups such as such as the Inquisition did not proceed any further.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Inquisition

The fact the U.S. government outsourced the work on a no bid basis and then washed its hands of the matter rather says it all.

The truth is all methods of interrogation require some degree of coercion and an attempt to 'break' the suspect so they talk truly and freely. Sleep deprivation, discomfort, disorientation and close, constant, questioning are used in some way or another by all policing agencies. In fact the mere act of depriving someone of their freedom, locking them in a cell for a period and then subjecting them to some type of inquisition is just the first step on the road. Since these techniques are inevitably going to be used in some degree the question is how and when should such processes be deployed and what judicial checks should be in place on their use. Our society would be healthier if we were more honest and less squeamish about that fact. The risk of not acknowledging the reality leads to the situation that has occurred in the US where it often seems the task of questioning state suspects was devolved to those who seem to have deployed torture for tortures sake with no obvious goals, no controls and precious little measurement of the quality of the results

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I only ever watched the first couple of seasons of 24 and am out of the loop a little bit.

Has there ever been an episode where Jack Bauer saves America from nuclear Armageddon by squirting party dips up someone's @rse?

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Kings of torture who made £50m inflicting pain: The incredible story of how two Mormons with no expertise conned the CIA

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Jim Mitchell (pictured), who devised the enhanced interrogation techniques used by the CIA with colleague Bruce Jessen, said this week's Senate report had a clear 'agenda'.

This story just gets even better in headline terms!!!

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OK, they ae war crminals, not terrorists.

That is also a different one.

People keep throwing these emotive terms around to try to make people sound bad without any concern for whether they're being at all accurate (a war crime may be terrorism, it may be something else, and not all terrorism is a war crime).

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That is also a different one.

People keep throwing these emotive terms around to try to make people sound bad without any concern for whether they're being at all accurate (a war crime may be terrorism, it may be something else, and not all terrorism is a war crime).

I am quite content to describe them as terrorists and war criminals.

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Formal declarations of war were a brief fad. You've got a war if you've got a lot of fighting, not because of what someone said.

They can be considered as a fad in the same way that the illusion of representative government they were often associated with can be considered a fad.

Making effective war is arguably incompatible with the freedoms associated non-despotic government . Which is why representative governments have permitted heads of state despotic powers during formally recognised times of war.

The situation in the US seems to be that the executive branch of government has awarded itself despotic war time powers pretty much perpetually, and been allowed to get away with it.

fwiw I wouldn't describe these atrocities as war crimes, it implies more legitimacy than they deserve.These are base criminal acts of murder, rape and assault; same as if a mob boss had been responsible for them.

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...if you go back as far as, say the Roman Republic. The rules and customs they assigned to the appointment of temporary dictators, the long winded rituals associated with declarations of war, and clear indication of when Rome was and wasn't at war in public spaces, suggest that even 2,000+ years ago, supposedly less advanced people than ourselves had figured out that making the distinction between war and peace, and what is or not permissible during those times was pretty fundamental.

And fair play to them, according to the Romans they somehow managed to conquer the known world only fighting defensive wars which were always justly waged.

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