Bear Goggles Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 http://politicalscrapbook.net/2014/11/landlord-tory-mp-blocks-law-to-protect-tenants-with-hour-long-speech/ Hopes of blocking landlords from evicting tenants who complain about problems in their home were dashed today — after a Tory MP used an hour-long speech to ‘talk out’ the Tenancies (Reform) Bill. Protections against retaliatory eviction now stand little chance of becoming law, despite enjoying cross-party and government support. Inevitable really. What a twunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Pessimist Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Any West Yorkshire HPCers around that could canvass against this vile creature next May? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btl_hater Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Scum is the only word. Also shows that he must have worried to pull a stunt like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Goggles Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 Scum is the only word. Also shows that he must have worried to pull a stunt like this? Scum is most definitely not the ONLY word. But the HPC swear filter will overheat if I start using more appropriate words. When an MP does this, they show complete and utter contempt for the democratic process. Is it any wonder people are turning away from the mainstream parties in droves? We need political reform, full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reubenscratton Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Why not give him some feedback at https://twitter.com/philipdaviesmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Absolute *******. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Bunny Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Did he not say the bill was rubbish and what we need is longer tenancies not s21s? What's wrong with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Goggles Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Did he not say the bill was rubbish and what we need is longer tenancies not s21s? What's wrong with that? Nothing, but that doesn't take an hour. You've just done it in about 3 seconds. Regardless of whether one thinks the bill itself is good or bad, filibustering is just undemocratic. It shows contempt for the political process because it is done solely to prevent debate. Edited November 28, 2014 by Bear Goggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 That people vote for these idiots does parliament and democracy a great disservice. That parliament permits this behaviour shames all MPs. He now shares a flat in London with fellow MP Esther McVey.[51] Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Did he not say the bill was rubbish and what we need is longer tenancies not s21s? What's wrong with that? He said an S21 should be kept for when the LL fancies moving back in, among other things. Seems he espouses Labours proposals- a nameplate 3 year tenancy but with such lax S21 clauses it means jack all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Of Highbridge Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Brown envelopes from bankers and landlords. Report this guy to HMRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Any West Yorkshire HPCers around that could canvass against this vile creature next May? Might have helped if more MP's had turned up to vote. My West Yorkshire MP had to attend a dinner the night before at the Huddersfield Civic Society (aka NIMBY's) and was doing a round of school appearances today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Philip Davies seems to have had some support from yet another UKIP/landlord. Why is it every member of UKIP appears to be a landlord? Here is her Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/AlexandralSwann Website: http://www.alexandraswann.co.uk/ Edited November 28, 2014 by aSecureTenant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Philip Davies seems to have had some support from yet another UKIP/landlord. Why is it every member of UKIP appears to be a landlord? Here is her Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/AlexandralSwann Website: http://www.alexandraswann.co.uk/ Strange really, Ms Swann and Mr Davies might have strong things to say about the importance of a stable home life. But only if it doesn't impair the short-notice crashpad options for the landlord. "I should be able to evict with a month's notice for any reason" No you bloody shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) This country is a complete shithole. Edited November 28, 2014 by Joan of The Tower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disenfranchised Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Why not give him some feedback at https://twitter.com/philipdaviesmp I've just asked him if he's in the Tammany Hall wing of the Tory party :-) #selfservatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moedo12 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Strange really, Ms Swann and Mr Davies might have strong things to say about the importance of a stable home life. But only if it doesn't impair the short-notice crashpad options for the landlord. "I should be able to evict with a month's notice for any reason" No you bloody shouldn't. I've heard many a landlord argue they have little rights to evict tenants because they have to go to court to secure an eviction, even though this process can be fast tracked and that an end of a fixed term is the only reason required to evict a tenant. They often argue they should be able to evict more easily because they've maybe had a problem with a tenant that didn't pay their rent and it cost them a little to go to court. But the thing is, the vast majority of tenants pay their rent regularly, on time and in full. Otherwise the entire private rented industry would ground to a halt. But that doesn't happen does it. They seem to be making a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Wow there is more. This is one mean piece of UKIP/Tory/Rentier sh*t. Edited November 28, 2014 by aSecureTenant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) I've heard many a landlord argue they have little rights to evict tenants because they have to go to court to secure an eviction, even though this process can be fast tracked and that an end of a fixed term is the only reason required to evict a tenant. They often argue they should be able to evict more easily because they've maybe had a problem with a tenant that didn't pay their rent and it cost them a little to go to court. But the thing is, the vast majority of tenants pay their rent regularly, on time and in full. Otherwise the entire private rented industry would ground to a halt. But that doesn't happen does it. They seem to be making a lot of money. It's funny how the argument about serving notice is always turned into a proposition about dealing with blatant breaches of contract rather than what rights someone ought to have to turf out people who are paying rent and honouring their commitments. What good is an S21 if you are really dealing with people who are not going to move out unless forced anyway? the fact the eviction process for blatant nonpayers may be deficient is not good enough reason to turf out people who pay on time. Worth remembering that politicians will instinctively defend mortgage payers in arrears, but ******o Davies wants to reserve the right to sling the same people as he sees fit, if they rent. Swann is a child psychologist, apparently. Jesus wept. @cheeznbreed · 11 mins11 minutes ago@AlexandralSwann Does a stable home (or lack thereof) play any part in a person's psychological development, in your view? Edited November 28, 2014 by Joan of The Tower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I may be right wing, but the conservatives have just lost my support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It's funny how the argument about serving notice is always turned into a proposition about dealing with blatant breaches of contract rather than what rights someone ought to have to turf out people who are paying rent and honouring their commitments. What good is an S21 if you are really dealing with people who are not going to move out unless forced anyway? the fact the eviction process for blatant nonpayers may be deficient is not good enough reason to turf out people who pay on time. Worth remembering that politicians will instinctively defend mortgage payers in arrears, but ******o Davies wants to reserve the right to sling the same people as he sees fit, if they rent. Swann is a child psychologist, apparently. Jesus wept. Swann has that slightly thicko privileged caught in the headlights look about her, is she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_northshore_* Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 ...Swann is a child psychologist, apparently. Jesus wept. Completely off topic, anecdotal and just because it bothers me, but in my experience many child psychologists are simply sanctioned experts in f#cking up children; 1. Physically threatened and hurt his wife then left her with two children (one severely disabled) for another woman; 2. Gave the daughter the family adopted as a baby back to social services because she found knowledge of the child's terminal hereditary disease difficult to deal with; Some others. Conclude that despite all reports (including their own) detailing concerns and needs for neglected and abused kids, they and social services have done everything they could and <whatever predictably happened next> was completely unpredictable and nothing to do with them. It's particularly great when they refuse to sign their own reports. To any child psychologists reading this, yes some are also brilliant. Unlike politicians, who all seem to be sanctioned experts in f#cking things up for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Strange really, Ms Swann and Mr Davies might have strong things to say about the importance of a stable home life. But only if it doesn't impair the short-notice crashpad options for the landlord. "I should be able to evict with a month's notice for any reason" No you bloody shouldn't. Surely it's all about what the agreement is between the landlord and you, his customer. I always make sure that I have between six and eighteen months unexpired tenancy agreed at any given time, ie I agree another year when the existing agreement gets down to six months. As long as you have everything in writing, emails should be fine, you pay the rent on time and do not wreck the place, it would be extremely difficult for a landlord to obtain an eviction notice before the end of the agreed term. If I chose to rent on a month by month basis, I would expect to be given two months notice if, for whatever reason, the landlord wanted his house back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I may be right wing, but the conservatives have just lost my support Yep. About where I am (and have been for a while actually). No alternative either. UKIP are a party of NIMBYs and landlords. We've lost our party in the same way real old Labour workers lost theirs to Bliar. I honestly despair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moedo12 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 As long as you have everything in writing, emails should be fine, you pay the rent on time and do not wreck the place, it would be extremely difficult for a landlord to obtain an eviction notice before the end of the agreed term. That's a bit of a moot point though I'd be interested to see a breakdown of how people get evicted. I'd have thought refusal to renew a tenancy at the end of a fixed term would be a big one. The reason might be because the landlord refuses to do repairs or it could be that the tenant has rent arrears but neither of these things would be relevant when it comes to court. The end of the fix term, results in the eviction of the tenant. That's the problem in my opinion. This is not about the ability of landlords to obtain eviction notices before the of the agreed term, this about the absolute power landlords behold to evict tenants at end of terms without having to give any reason other than the term is coming to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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