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It Seems Their Diverse Cultural Casserole Has Simmered Away For Centuries Without Ever Boiling Over...

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That's odd, I seem to remember that there was an another autonomous ethnic region on the lower Volga.

Oh, I remember, it was the Volga German Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, but that was before all 1.5 million of its inhabitants were sent off to the gulags, executed or forced into exile. Does that not count as "boiling over"?

How does the BBC find such complete cretins to work for them? This person doesn't know anything about Russian history and can't even be bothered to do a quick bit of research on the Internet.

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That's odd, I seem to remember that there was an another autonomous ethnic region on the lower Volga.

Oh, I remember, it was the Volga German Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, but that was before all 1.5 million of its inhabitants were sent off to the gulags, executed or forced into exile. Does that not count as "boiling over"?

How does the BBC find such complete cretins to work for them? This person doesn't know anything about Russian history and can't even be bothered to do a quick bit of research on the Internet.

Or the Jewish one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

Perhaps it never boiled over because they practiced, shock horror, segregation...usually social, given the russian census still seems to identify people as 'russians' 'ukranians', never mixed.

Its the core bankruptcy at the centre of diversity. We're supposed to embrace different races and cultures for their difference...then mix to eliminate them. Now i'm not saying mixing is good or bad...its personal choice, but its hardly going to perpetuate a vast array of unique and separate races and cultures.

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left to there own devices people get along fine, usually where there is mutual benefit. Division along various ethnic religious lines is usually something created or amplified by a government looking for a group to blame. Its standard behavior for any gov to find a scapegoat, muslims jews take your pick. When economies turn sour this groups then smashed to bits as an outlet for frustrations.

The BBC is a big player in doing this for the GOV. They play lefty cultural diversity thing but the underlying message is always division. Just watch for the British "superiority" which is in everything they do.

They are total *****, I find no matter where i go in the world folk are usually nice, just be nice and leave people the ****** alone, how hard can that be?

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actually the people pushing "diversity" that hardest you will find to be the biggest hypocrites of the lot.

they won't be mixing with anyone else but their own caste,but they expect everybody else to do what they say, not as they do.

the really worrying thing about this, is if they push this agenda too hard then there is absolutely,for sure,another hitler waiting in the wings to save the aryans.

.and this time the people are going to think he's the feckin messiah,because he's protecting the culture that the other lot were so busy trying to demolish.

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left to there own devices people get along fine, usually where there is mutual benefit. Division along various ethnic religious lines is usually something created or amplified by a government looking for a group to blame. Its standard behavior for any gov to find a scapegoat, muslims jews take your pick. When economies turn sour this groups then smashed to bits as an outlet for frustrations.

The BBC is a big player in doing this for the GOV. They play lefty cultural diversity thing but the underlying message is always division. Just watch for the British "superiority" which is in everything they do.

They are total *****, I find no matter where i go in the world folk are usually nice, just be nice and leave people the ****** alone, how hard can that be?

There can be no "getting along" without an agreement on boundaries. In many cases what actually occurs when two cultures meet is simply the subjugation of a minority by a majority, with or without government mandate.

Some people make the mistake of thinking there is some innate harmony in human society that occurs naturally, where as what they are actually referring to is a system of according all people respect. This in a way that has specifically developed in the West as the result of its Christianity-derived culture. I find it hard to reconcile some naturally occuring state of human harmony when human sacrifice, public execution, rape and even cannibalism have all been parts of human societies past and present, and have been widespread and celebrated.

In the case of islam, the islamic belief system was founded on the fact that there should be no seperation between government/law and religion, so that's a difficult one when it comes to your first point.

You really think the BBC is trying to create scapegoats? From what I can see it tends to go out of its way to highlight the benefits of all cultures except what would be considered "traditional British". It seems to stay away from ascribing "bad things" to any particular minority group. You might be able to argue that the denegration of traditional culture and elevation of alien culture is used to divide and demoralise people, however.

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There can be no "getting along" without an agreement on boundaries. In many cases what actually occurs when two cultures meet is simply the subjugation of a minority by a majority, with or without government mandate.

Some people make the mistake of thinking there is some innate harmony in human society that occurs naturally, where as what they are actually referring to is a system of according all people respect. This in a way that has specifically developed in the West as the result of its Christianity-derived culture. I find it hard to reconcile some naturally occuring state of human harmony when human sacrifice, public execution, rape and even cannibalism have all been parts of human societies past and present, and have been widespread and celebrated.

In the case of islam, the islamic belief system was founded on the fact that there should be no seperation between government/law and religion, so that's a difficult one when it comes to your first point.

You really think the BBC is trying to create scapegoats? From what I can see it tends to go out of its way to highlight the benefits of all cultures except what would be considered "traditional British". It seems to stay away from ascribing "bad things" to any particular minority group. You might be able to argue that the denegration of traditional culture and elevation of alien culture is used to divide and demoralise people, however.

In BBC land it`s a simple fact that immigrants are actually better than `White British`. As demonstrated by this piece explaining that the recent phenomena of improved GCSE results in London, compared to the rest of the UK, is due to the greater ethnic diversity in London squeezing out the underperforming `White British` kids.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-30002991

The high success rate enjoyed by GCSE students in London is explained by the higher proportion of ethnic minority pupils in the capital, research finds.

The report says the capital's diversity plays a key role in the "London effect" - a term used to describe the high levels of success among its pupils.

It says London has a low rate of the lowest performing group: white British.

No mention is made of the fact by that funding per pupil in London is significantly greater than the rest of the UK.

http://www.sec-ed.co.uk/news/how-much-per-pupil-funding-will-your-school-get

Dedicated Schools Grant 2014/15 per-pupil funding

Lowest funded authorities

Cambridgeshire £3,949.94

South Gloucestershire £3,969.38

Leicestershire £3,994.63

Poole £4,007.18

Buckinghamshire £4,040.23

Cheshire East £4,076.77

Warwickshire £4,078.8

Bromley £4,082.33

Rutland £4,086.99

Surrey £4,096.45

Highest funded authorities

City of London £8,594.55

Tower Hamlets £7,014.38

Hackney £6,680.05

Lambeth £6,384.03

Hammersmith and Fulham £6,248.47

Islington £6,229.3

Camden £6,205.29

Newham £6,132.26

Southwark £6,123.79

Greenwich £6,005.7

Highest funded authorities outside London

Nottingham £5,308.52

Birmingham £5,218.28

Manchester £5,088.3

Liverpool £5,048.35

Slough £4,861.93

Coventry £4,861.52

Halton £4,857.53

Bradford £4,845.01

Rotherham £4,844.16

Knowsley £4,839.11

So once again we have a special `London Effect` attributed by the BBC to the magic London fairy dust that mysteriously makes London better than everywhere else, when the reality is that the fairy dust is simply - and obviously - all of the extra money that gets spent in London.

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There can be no "getting along" without an agreement on boundaries. In many cases what actually occurs when two cultures meet is simply the subjugation of a minority by a majority, with or without government mandate.

Some people make the mistake of thinking there is some innate harmony in human society that occurs naturally, where as what they are actually referring to is a system of according all people respect. This in a way that has specifically developed in the West as the result of its Christianity-derived culture. I find it hard to reconcile some naturally occuring state of human harmony when human sacrifice, public execution, rape and even cannibalism have all been parts of human societies past and present, and have been widespread and celebrated.

In the case of islam, the islamic belief system was founded on the fact that there should be no seperation between government/law and religion, so that's a difficult one when it comes to your first point.

You really think the BBC is trying to create scapegoats? From what I can see it tends to go out of its way to highlight the benefits of all cultures except what would be considered "traditional British". It seems to stay away from ascribing "bad things" to any particular minority group. You might be able to argue that the denegration of traditional culture and elevation of alien culture is used to divide and demoralise people, however.

Im not talking societies or cultures im talking "people" human people not collectives. I agree any sort of collective usually results in oppression and death but people I have met in my life havent tried to "oppress" me. Often they keep there religion beliefs to themselves and just want to be left alone. The nature of my work means its a cultural mix about as diverse as it gets. So they might wear different hats, eat crazy shit or have some what I see as bonkers beliefs but when you work together day to day we all tackle problems the same way we all laugh at the same shit. There is harmony with human beings in so far as put together in rooms and working together its all fine. However whenever people are put in groups with "leaders" who always have agendas it always goes to ******.

I try to be nice to folk it must be hard if you have to leave you home to go somewhere totally alien and try to earn a living. I doubt anyone actually really wants to come here and I am sure if they had a decent job etc they wouldnt want to come here at all.

People are nice to me in return, maybe they go home at night and burn effergies of me I doubt it. At ground level everyone is pretty much ok its always the dicks in charge with there agendas.

I also have found from life experience the biggest assholes are from here, I have been insulted and assaulted by white UK more than anyone by a mile and that is including my world travels. Its very humbling just how friendly some folk are even when you know your country has been hammering the shit ouf them for centuries and they live in crippling poverty.

I am totally ******ing humbled by the people on this planet. Its just the dicks in charge.

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Im not talking societies or cultures im talking "people" human people not collectives. I agree any sort of collective usually results in oppression and death but people I have met in my life havent tried to "oppress" me. Often they keep there religion beliefs to themselves and just want to be left alone. The nature of my work means its a cultural mix about as diverse as it gets. So they might wear different hats, eat crazy shit or have some what I see as bonkers beliefs but when you work together day to day we all tackle problems the same way we all laugh at the same shit. There is harmony with human beings in so far as put together in rooms and working together its all fine. However whenever people are put in groups with "leaders" who always have agendas it always goes to ******.

I try to be nice to folk it must be hard if you have to leave you home to go somewhere totally alien and try to earn a living. I doubt anyone actually really wants to come here and I am sure if they had a decent job etc they wouldnt want to come here at all.

People are nice to me in return, maybe they go home at night and burn effergies of me I doubt it. At ground level everyone is pretty much ok its always the dicks in charge with there agendas.

I also have found from life experience the biggest assholes are from here, I have been insulted and assaulted by white UK more than anyone by a mile and that is including my world travels. Its very humbling just how friendly some folk are even when you know your country has been hammering the shit ouf them for centuries and they live in crippling poverty.

I am totally ******ing humbled by the people on this planet. Its just the dicks in charge.

I think the majority of people will wish for amicable relations with other people for the sake of their own personal well-being. What I think you are doing, however, is confusing two things 1) interpersonal relationships and the human desire for collaboration, with 2) the function of a society.

It's ideology and leadership within a society that has always driven the human race. People also tend to submit to authority, even when, on a personal level, it supports actions that they wouldn't otherwise choose to follow. Take for example the classic milgram experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Its common to talk about your friendly neighbour, whilst ignoring the leadership/ideology that ultimately drives him which, in another scenario, would mean his action towards you would be altogether different. It's also a human survival mechanism to convince yourself that "everyone is basically ok". It makes life easier/happier ;) . Also in a position of relative weakness (i.e. in an alien land), it's normal to build allies, rather than try to fight against the environment you find yourself in.

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It's ideology and leadership within a society that has always driven the human race. People also tend to submit to authority, even when, on a personal level, it supports actions that they wouldn't otherwise choose to follow. Take for example the classic milgram experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

fwiw there's a distinct possibility that Milgram fudged his experimental method, and findings...

Psych, Lies, and Audiotape: The Tarnished Legacy of the Milgram Shock Experiments by Johannes Lichtman

Some of the people who went along with administering the shocks allegedly knew it was all a fake, others were persistently bullied to continue.

That aside, all participants were assured by a man in a white coat, working in a prestigious academic institution, that none of the subjects allegedly being shocked would suffer any lasting harm. As such, the experiment was arguably as much a test of people's trust of scientists, as a quantification of their inner death camp guardiness.

A crisp fiver says that any contemporary attempt to measure blind faith in men wearing lab coats wouldn't scale the heights reached in 1961.

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fwiw there's a distinct possibility that Milgram fudged his experimental method, and findings...

Psych, Lies, and Audiotape: The Tarnished Legacy of the Milgram Shock Experiments by Johannes Lichtman

Some of the people who went along with administering the shocks allegedly knew it was all a fake, others were persistently bullied to continue.

That aside, all participants were assured by a man in a white coat, working in a prestigious academic institution, that none of the subjects allegedly being shocked would suffer any lasting harm. As such, the experiment was arguably as much a test of people's trust of scientists, as a quantification of their inner death camp guardiness.

A crisp fiver says that any contemporary attempt to measure blind faith in men wearing lab coats wouldn't scale the heights reached in 1961.

I somehow knew this response was coming :). Of course I could have just gone straight to Nazi death camps but then I might be accused of Godwin's law. I suppose I could have chosen Stalin instead, however. You're probably right about the lack of blind faith in men in white coats. Nowadays it would have to be Simon Cowell or Gary Barlow to have the same effect.

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I somehow knew this response was coming :). Of course I could have just gone straight to Nazi death camps but then I might be accused of Godwin's law. I suppose I could have chosen Stalin instead, however. You're probably right about the lack of blind faith in men in white coats. Nowadays it would have to be Simon Cowell or Gary Barlow to have the same effect.

That groups of people have done awful things to other groups of people is undeniable.

I simply suspect that the Milgram experiment is a bit ropey.

There's arguably a lot more going on in group on group awfulness than ordinary people merely following orders.

Innate tribalism and belief systems that exploit the appetite for tribalism are going to be part of it. Power structures preferentially empowering the sociopathic minority who have a taste for being awful another part.

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The BBC is a big player in doing this for the GOV. They play lefty cultural diversity thing but the underlying message is always division. Just watch for the British "superiority" which is in everything they do.

I suspect that the middle-ranking BBC/ Guardianista types sincerely believe in 'lefty cultural diversity'.

Higher up the power structure I doubt many folk are all that left-wing or egalitarian. Given the solid track record of divide and rule tactics, those folk are not going to have too much of a problem if the Beeb brainwashes and enrages in roughly equal measure, as long as it leaves them out of the enraging.

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