The Eagle Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Tony Blair is annoyed with Britons who ignore his words on Islamic State because of the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Former Prime Minister Blair lifted the lid on his frustration at being sidelined in the debate on what to do about the bloody rise of Islamic State [iS] in Iraq and Syria. [...] "I'm out in the Middle East twice a month, I'm seeing it first-hand," he said. [...] since he left Downing Street in 2007, Blair has devoted his energies to business interests and being an envoy to the Middle East. That entitles him to be listened to the subject, he believes. [...] http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tony-blair-annoyed-everyone-ignoring-me-isis-because-iraq-war-1472499 You couldn't make it up, this psychopath still wants to be taken seriously and wants to give advice on how to deal with middle east issues after all the damage he has done to the area... Can somebody please lock him up in a mental health ward in Baghdad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Will he just fûck off and die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Blair risked playing to type by insisting foreign troops on the ground are necessary to defeat the fundamentalist Jihadi group. Wisdom is gained by learning from your mistakes. Blair didn't learn anything from the biggest mistake of his life (how could he without first accepting it was a mistake?) but he expects to be treated as a source of wisdom anyway. There's definitely some bit of brain that normal people have that Blair doesn't. Britain's first sociopath prime minister? Edited October 30, 2014 by Dorkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie_George Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Awwww, give him a break, he was only doing God's work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 You are all being unfair. I think he should be sent for face to face talks with IS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Blair didn't learn anything from the biggest mistake of his life (how could he without first accepting it was a mistake?) but he expects to be treated as a source of wisdom anyway. To be fair to Bliar, in this case he's probably right; if we're serious about dealing with ISIS then ground forces are the only option. Unfortunately, having created this unholy mess with the 2003 invasion, there's no political will to commit the forces necessary to sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 To be fair to Bliar, in this case he's probably right; if we're serious about dealing with ISIS then ground forces are the only option. Unfortunately, having created this unholy mess with the 2003 invasion, there's no political will to commit the forces necessary to sort it out. How long will it take Blair to propose installing a Sunni strong man to lead a secular dictatorship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 How long will it take Blair to propose installing a Sunni strong man to lead a secular dictatorship? But Assad has been undermined by Western- and Saudi-backed terrorists. "Jihadi John" is a nutter backed by a gang. Crusadi Tony was a nutter backed by one of the world's most powerful armed forces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 To be fair to Bliar, in this case he's probably right; if we're serious about dealing with ISIS then ground forces are the only option. Unfortunately, having created this unholy mess with the 2003 invasion, there's no political will to commit the forces necessary to sort it out. ISIS is not our job to deal with. Armed by us and the Americans, supplied by the Saudis, we have done enough damage as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 You are all being unfair. I think he should be sent for face to face talks with IS.Yeah. And we could just send his face. IS would understand that as a gesture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Yeah. And we could just send his face. IS would understand that as a gesture. grinning, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerner Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Tony we aren't ignoring you, we all think your a cupid stunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenpig Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 If he comes within stabbing distance, we might get interested in him. To be fair to Bliar, in this case he's probably right; if we're serious about dealing with ISIS then ground forces are the only option. Unfortunately, having created this unholy mess with the 2003 invasion, there's no political will to commit the forces necessary to sort it out. Everything we|ve tried sorting out has ended up even worse. Time to cut our losses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 ISIS is not our job to deal with. Armed by us and the Americans, supplied by the Saudis, we have done enough damage as it is. The fact that we created the situation might suggest to some that we have a moral responsibility to intervene rather than wash our hands of the mess but that's irrelevant, the real question is whether it is in our interests to intervene. You might be happy with a caliphate stretching from the Mediteranian to the Arabian seas, practicing a form of Islam that makes the Taliban look moderate, I have serious doubts about whether this is a safe outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The fact that we created the situation might suggest to some that we have a moral responsibility to intervene rather than wash our hands of the mess but that's irrelevant, the real question is whether it is in our interests to intervene. You might be happy with a caliphate stretching from the Mediteranian to the Arabian seas, practicing a form of Islam that makes the Taliban look moderate, I have serious doubts about whether this is a safe outcome. I think the Caliphate in question was always there before we drew some lines...we divided, we conquered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Everything we|ve tried sorting out has ended up even worse. Time to cut our losses Everything we've tried has been driven by the needs of the US political cycle and the fiction of bringing democracy to Iraq, nobody had the will to face up to the reality of the situation created by Bliar/Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Everything we've tried has been driven by the needs of the US political cycle and the fiction of bringing democracy to Iraq, nobody had the will to face up to the reality of the situation created by Bliar/Bush. oh we did, we were bullied out of the way. bush/blair were acting on orders from their superiors in countries a little way away to PROVOKE a conflict and make it a quagmire. they should both be on trial for treason(and executed) maybe a more fitting fate would be to hand them and their progeny over to isis for a fair trial. Edited October 31, 2014 by oracle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 maybe a more fitting fate would be to hand them and their progeny over to isis for a fair trial. For once I agree with oracle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenpig Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Everything we've tried has been driven by the needs of the US political cycle and the fiction of bringing democracy to Iraq, nobody had the will to face up to the reality of the situation created by Bliar/Bush. What do you think we will achieve by war? Or, how would you like the middle east to look, and do you think it can be achieved by war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 this psychopath I think he's a narcissist not a psychopath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 What do you think we will achieve by war? Or, how would you like the middle east to look, and do you think it can be achieved by war? After we kill millions more of them, the population of the Middle East will all love each other and thank us for killing their friends and relatives. It just makes sense, dunnit? Bombing for Peace has such a long and proven history of working so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer466 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Chilcott is due to report before the General Election.... He won't be complaining of every one ******* ignoring him then....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattW Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Bliar probably isn't taken too seriously on the global stage these days. Takes us to war with Iraq & Afghanistan and later is given the plum role of 'Middle East Peace Envoy' (or similar). Loved it a few months ago when Tony was being harassed by Channel 4 News reporter and politician goader Michael Crick. Instead of dealing with the emerging threat of ISIS/ISIL, he was in London celebrating the 20th anniversary of becoming leader of the Labour Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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