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Northern Ireland Ban On Paying For Xes Is Approved By Stormont Assembly

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/21/northern-ireland-ban-on-paying-for-sex-is-approved-by-stormont-assembly

Paying for sex is to be banned in Northern Ireland after members at the Stormont assembly members backed the move in a landmark late-night vote.

The proposal to outlaw purchasing sex is among a number of clauses contained in a bill aimed at amending Northern Ireland’s laws on trafficking and prostitution.

Paid-for consensual sex is currently legal in Northern Ireland though activities such as kerb crawling, brothel keeping and pimping are against the law. The proposed ban is similar to the model operating in Sweden.

The human trafficking and exploitation bill was tabled before the assembly by Democratic Unionist peer Lord Morrow.

The fate of the bill’s contentious clause six, proposing the ban on purchasing sex, was uncertain at the outset of the debate, with Sinn Fein’s decision to back the prohibition along with the DUP proving crucial.

The clause was passed during the bill’s consideration stage by 81 votes to 10 shortly after 11.30pm.

Stormont’s justice minister, David Ford, leader of the cross-community Alliance party, opposed the clause.

While the legislation still has to pass further assembly stages, the significant majority support within the devolved administration means it is essentially now destined to become law.

How have they defined paying for sex? Surely the way around this is for the ladies in question to sell a pen for £20 and then have instant sex with the purchaser as they found them attractive and couldn't resist the come on?

No one has bought sex and the individual now has a shiny new pen.

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I have known some, ahem, ladies who for years have been paid in kind. How will the law be used to stop you buying her presents and dinner in return for a shag?

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The politicians in NI seem to have no understanding of the difference between prostitution and people trafficked in and forced to sell themselves. They are a confused bunch in Stormont. Too much churchy stuff from all of them.

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I have known some, ahem, ladies who for years have been paid in kind. How will the law be used to stop you buying her presents and dinner in return for a shag?

Yes - it's impossible to prove money has been paid for sex. There's a reason why most prostitutes are called 'escorts'. The business arrangement is for female company, anything else that happens is nothing to do with the contract. I thought even the most man-hating feminists in modern government accepted the reality of this.

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Yes - it's impossible to prove money has been paid for sex. There's a reason why most prostitutes are called 'escorts'. The business arrangement is for female company, anything else that happens is nothing to do with the contract. I thought even the most man-hating feminists in modern government accepted the reality of this.

Just like the thread on manga child pron - just wait for the police to start using entrapment with fake "escorts" to up their conviction rate.

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Just like the thread on manga child pron - just wait for the police to start using entrapment with fake "escorts" to up their conviction rate.

They have been doing that for years.

Its low hanging fruit again...roll up in a car, let the girl walk up to you, get her to do the deal and hey presto...she's nicked for soliciting.

A major contribution to community safety.

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Now we will probably have a poster campaign costing thousands and lots of evening news sound bites. Then every body will forget about it as there is absolutely no way of policing it. The politicians will go home happy as they have all agreed (unusual here) on one thing. Job done, duty done, clap on the back for all. Waste of time, effort and money.

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They have been doing that for years.

Its low hanging fruit again...roll up in a car, let the girl walk up to you, get her to do the deal and hey presto...she's nicked for soliciting.

A major contribution to community safety.

I know, but I was thinking the other way around. Sexily dressed WPC as bait on the street, punter approaches, makes offer. Nicked. PCW still ready and good to go for the next punter.

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But you can just pay for cuddles or company though? So escorts are still perfectly legal, presumably.

Is there a legal definition of sex or sexual activity? Will there be a table somewhere in the act which defines what you can or can't do for compensation? Would a pat on the bottom be considered sex, after all, you can be done 40 years afterwards under the rubric of "sexual assault by unwanted touching".

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I know, but I was thinking the other way around. Sexily dressed WPC as bait on the street, punter approaches, makes offer. Nicked. PCW still ready and good to go for the next punter.

yes, they catch kerbcrawlers this way.

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Just like the thread on manga child pron - just wait for the police to start using entrapment with fake "escorts" to up their conviction rate.

I think that's what they do in Sweden...they trace punters through mobile phones...Aren't Norway going to repeal the Nordic model in parliament?

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