interestrateripoff Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/oct/14/richest-1percent-half-global-wealth-credit-suisse-report The richest 1% of the world’s population are getting wealthier, owning more than 48% of global wealth, according to a report published on Tuesday which warned growing inequality could be a trigger for recession. According to the Credit Suisse global wealth report, a person needs just $3,650 – including the value of equity in their home – to be among the wealthiest half of world citizens. However, more than $77,000 is required to be a member of the top 10% of global wealth holders, and $798,000 to belong to the top 1%. “Taken together, the bottom half of the global population own less than 1% of total wealth. In sharp contrast, the richest decile hold 87% of the world’s wealth, and the top percentile alone account for 48.2% of global assets,” said the annual report, now in its fifth year. The report, which calculates that total global wealth has grown to a new record – $263tn, more than twice the $117tn calculated for 2000 – found that the UK was the only country in the G7 to have recorded rising inequality in the 21st century. Its findings were seized upon by anti-poverty campaigners Oxfam which published research at the start of the year showing that the richest 85 people across the globe share a combined wealth of £1tn, as much as the poorest 3.5 billion of the world’s population. “These figures give more evidence that inequality is extreme and growing, and that economic recovery following the financial crisis has been skewed in favour of the wealthiest. In poor countries, rising inequality means the difference between children getting the chance to go to school and sick people getting life saving medicines,” said Oxfam’s head of inequality Emma Seery. Hasn't global inequality been growing since the end of Bretton Woods? Still at least all this wealth the rich are accumulating will trickle down to the rest of us.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Of Highbridge Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I would say that Credit Suisse are correct and this is exactly what is now causing the slowdown in China. The lower earners are never paid enough to buy the proceeds from their hard work (house, car, etc.), government across the globe have used debt to allow a proportion of the people to buy these things and stimulate demand. In China they clearly have a surplus of homes, internationally there is clearly a huge surplus of money in the hands of 1% of the population which frankly is no use to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campervanman Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Nice to see the UK leading the way. The UK has the greatest level of inequality of income distribution in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 They can't spend half the global wealth.....the poor will spoil it for the rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 About £500k including property wealth is probably a significant part of the UK....sounds a lot more interesting when they stick with the '1%' mantra though. In income terms I read the benefit cap is equal to the richest 2.6% of global population... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Read this question yesterday. Is it better to be poor in a rich country or rich in a poor country? To clarify you would be in the top 10% of the poor country or in bottom 10% in a rich country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammin35 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 In global terms, i think you'll find that British people are the 1%. Your average Sierra Leone citizen earns 20p an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) OMG I am a 1%er, viewed in global terms. and so is my communist neighbour who spends her time ranting about 1%ers! Edited October 14, 2014 by davidg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Read this question yesterday. Is it better to be poor in a rich country or rich in a poor country? To clarify you would be in the top 10% of the poor country or in bottom 10% in a rich country. Is it better to be a big fish in a little pond, or a big fish in a big pond with other big fish! Is it better to be the man with the one eye in the kingdom of the blind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaker Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) The 0.1% also own the Fed, apparently in a "my biotch" sense, and literally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ps4HkdqaQ0 •The US Supreme Court ruled in 1928 (http://openjurist.org/275/us/415): –Instrumentalities like the national banks or the federal reserve banks, in which there are private interests, are not departments of the government. They are private corporations in which the government has an interest. •The long-time Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee (Charles McFadden) said on June 10, 1932: –Some people think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies …. •The Fed itself admitted (via Bloomberg http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601203&sid=avjlPu.bRVmk): –While the Fed’s Washington-based Board of Governors is a federal agency subject to the Freedom of Information Act and other government rules, the New York Fed and other regional banks maintain they are separate institutions, owned by their member banks, and not subject to federal restrictions. Edited October 14, 2014 by weaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campervanman Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Being an alleged member of the global 1% in the UK maybe doesn't seem like it if house prices are based on the incomes of the UK 1%. How much does a house cost in Sierra Leone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/oct/14/richest-1percent-half-global-wealth-credit-suisse-report Hasn't global inequality been growing since the end of Bretton Woods? Still at least all this wealth the rich are accumulating will trickle down to the rest of us.... $798k puts you in the top 1%? Hmmm. Every now-working-age Brit has an entitlement to a state pension worth (IIRC) £155/week, or a little over £8k/year (excluding any homes or pension savings). That's a net worth of £240k, or about $400k. A British down-and-out is halfway to the global top 1%. And that's excluding a whole raft of other entitlements: this is the down-and-out with no working-age benefits, no NHS, no housing benefit. Add housing and our down-and-out is up there in the top 1%. If that doesn't make sense to you, then maybe you need to question the spin you just posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campervanman Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 So there you have it. The UK is a wealthy country so just be grateful your pension is 100 times the average income in Seirra Leone and forget how much you can actually buy in the UK with your Seirra Leone millionaire salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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interestrateripoff Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 $798k puts you in the top 1%? Hmmm. Every now-working-age Brit has an entitlement to a state pension worth (IIRC) £155/week, or a little over £8k/year (excluding any homes or pension savings). That's a net worth of £240k, or about $400k. A British down-and-out is halfway to the global top 1%. And that's excluding a whole raft of other entitlements: this is the down-and-out with no working-age benefits, no NHS, no housing benefit. Add housing and our down-and-out is up there in the top 1%. If that doesn't make sense to you, then maybe you need to question the spin you just posted. Hmmm, 7bn people on the planet, the top 1% of the population equates to what about 70m people? Did you read and understand the question I posted further down? Which actually takes up your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-so Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Trickle down economics has never been proposed by any economist as something that actually happens. It is quite interesting to learn how it has been seized upon as a policy expounded by politicians under the influence of right wing economists. I think people imagine that Regan was elected under the slogan. Trickle down economics as you understand it is largely an invention of anti-capitalists. But it is nice that someone made a graphic out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-so Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Read this question yesterday. Is it better to be poor in a rich country or rich in a poor country? To clarify you would be in the top 10% of the poor country or in bottom 10% in a rich country. Rich in a poor country, for sure. People's sense of financial well being is largely relative to their immediate peers and neighbours anyway.You can live well on a much lower income in certain countries. You may not have a washing machine, but do you need it when the dhobi women will hand wash them for next to mothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainlessSteelCat Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Smoke and mirrors. Nevermind the global 1% - how about the top 0.01% or 0.001%. Damn sight harder to get into that group I suspect. Otherwise, practically every property owning Londoner falls into the global 1% I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Trickle down economics has never been proposed by any economist as something that actually happens. It is quite interesting to learn how it has been seized upon as a policy expounded by politicians under the influence of right wing economists. I think people imagine that Regan was elected under the slogan. Trickle down economics as you understand it is largely an invention of anti-capitalists. But it is nice that someone made a graphic out of it. You're right about the term. In the 80s Thatcherites called it "supply-side economics". Although even in the Con clubs and within the party it was openly referred to as "trickle down". I don't think any of us were anti-capitalists, and it certainly wasn't seen as a dirty or incorrect term in those circles either. It's "horse and sparrow" economics plain and simple, and I even heard that analogy used as a positive thing by Tories frequently. Feed the horse enough oats and it'll poo enough to feed all the sparrows. If that sounds like a pretty inefficient way to feed sparrows, then sod you, you're a socialist who hates the Queen/Britain/capitalism. Edited October 14, 2014 by byron78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drat Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Do they include children in the statistics? If so many households in the UK will contain representatives of the top 1% and the probably the bottom 10% depending on ages and pocket money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Every now-working-age Brit has an entitlement to a state pension worth (IIRC) £155/week Wrong, only retirement-age Brits are entitled to the state pension. Working-age Brits are entitled to a promise that the state pension will be there for them when they reach "retirement age", whatever that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Are you among the world's wealthiest?If you have $3,650, you’re among the wealthiest half of people in the world, according to a new report on global wealth. We break down the stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderpup Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 What we have here is an inversion of the tragedy of the commons problem- but instead of a shared resource being destroyed by over exploitation by the many we have a shared resource being destroyed by under exploitation by the few in the form of hoarding by the 1%. Unless the wealth generated by the system can circulate that system will die and all those claims on that system will die with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Wrong, only retirement-age Brits are entitled to the state pension. Working-age Brits are entitled to a promise that the state pension will be there for them when they reach "retirement age", whatever that is. Yep. And that promise has a value. I quoted its current value. We can only guess its future value. On the current over-generous formula it can only rise. I think you share my view on its lack of sustainability, but that's something to deal with when it comes. Thatcher took a lot of political flack for discontinuing an unsustainable formula: can you see any of today's headless chickens having the balls to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I think the bankers (although pretty terrible ) have become the scape goats. Inequality is where its all at. Just need to pay people a living wage build enough houses so the extra money doesn't all go in rent. Never going to have enough houses if we keep importing more and more people. TPTB aren't going to give up their wealth unless they are forced to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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