geezer466 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Is being nicked by her own force for driving uninsured...... http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/crime-commissioner-facing-probe-over-24201/ Ann Barnes is reported to be facing a probe about driving with no insurance after being involved in a car crash in Dartford.According to The Mail on Sunday, Kent's Police and Crime Commissioner is under investigation by her own force after the collision in September.Her soft top Mercedes collided with another car and then ploughed into a tree on her way to a meeting. All together now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'm sure she'll let herself off. Does anyone think it's a resigning issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londislagerhound Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 What an odious piece of work she appears to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Does anyone think it's a resigning issue? Yep. If you cause an accident that puts somebody else in a wheelchair that person could need £1m worth of income support, medical treatment and personal care throughout the remainder of their life. (A fairly young relative of mine was the victim in exactly this scenario.) Where is the money to pay for that supposed to come from if somebody is driving without insurance? Should the victim just accept that they are now going to be disabled and in grinding poverty for 5 decades because somebody else couldn't be bothered to log on to a price comparison website? The penalty for driving without insurance should be prison time. The consequences for others can be severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eight Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I can offer her this proven defence strategy, free of charge. http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/local/darlington/11198977.Gypsy_leader_from_Darlington_escaped_penalty_points_for_driving_without_insurance_because_he_can_barely_read/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen_out Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I can offer her this proven defence strategy, free of charge. http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/local/darlington/11198977.Gypsy_leader_from_Darlington_escaped_penalty_points_for_driving_without_insurance_because_he_can_barely_read/ Classic. It shows yet again that laws are there to keep the productive in line. Gypsies pay no tax and are therefore of little concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Is that the same Ann Barnes who said that Mercedes was 'not her style'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronyx Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I can offer her this proven defence strategy, free of charge. http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/local/darlington/11198977.Gypsy_leader_from_Darlington_escaped_penalty_points_for_driving_without_insurance_because_he_can_barely_read/ I thought it was an 'absolute' offence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'm sure she'll let herself off. Does anyone think it's a resigning issue? Not remotely. I have known several totally respectable people who have driven for periods uninsured or within MoT through pure oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChumpusRex Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I thought it was an 'absolute' offence? That was my impression. I very nearly came a cropper to this, when an insurer cancelled my policy without telling me; but I found out incidentally before anything happened. However, while I was looking into making a complaint about this, and making enquiries on various forums, I was contacted by someone who had bought insurance, but the insurer had cancelled the policy and written to the wrong address. There were caught driving by an ANPR camera and prosecuted. They pleaded not guilty on the basis that they thought they had valid insurance and the insurer had not followed the cancellation procedure in the T&C. They were convicted anyway, the judge said that failure to follow procedure by the insurer was irrelevant to offence, and it was a separate civil matter. I've also come across a couple of cases where an insurer has written a cancellation letter by recorded delivery, but the letter was returned undelivered. In those cases, the ruling was that the fact that the letter was returned was irrelevant. It was the insured's responsibility to have read and acted upon the letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 That was my impression. I very nearly came a cropper to this, when an insurer cancelled my policy without telling me; but I found out incidentally before anything happened. However, while I was looking into making a complaint about this, and making enquiries on various forums, I was contacted by someone who had bought insurance, but the insurer had cancelled the policy and written to the wrong address. There were caught driving by an ANPR camera and prosecuted. They pleaded not guilty on the basis that they thought they had valid insurance and the insurer had not followed the cancellation procedure in the T&C. They were convicted anyway, the judge said that failure to follow procedure by the insurer was irrelevant to offence, and it was a separate civil matter. I've also come across a couple of cases where an insurer has written a cancellation letter by recorded delivery, but the letter was returned undelivered. In those cases, the ruling was that the fact that the letter was returned was irrelevant. It was the insured's responsibility to have read and acted upon the letter. A letter posted is deemed received in law. A fax is deemed received when it us received oddly. Not sure what the position is with an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 A letter posted is deemed received in law. Even if it is sent to the wrong address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Of Highbridge Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Didn't fatty (Fergus) Wilson apply for this job? Property tycoon Fergus Wilson of Boughton Monchelsea, Maidstone, willing to stand for Kent police and crime commissioner if Ann Barnes resigns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Even if it is sent to the wrong address? not sure...All I know that in the cases I have been involved in, all that was needed was a proof of posting...usually a book kept in the post room recording the letter posted, the date and time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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