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Breaking just now..I think at UKIP Party conference...

Mark Reckless

Conservative MP for Rochester and Strood is defecting to Ukip, he announced at the party's conference in Doncaster

Eat that Cameron!

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Looks like the worm is turning against the Tories.

The name 'Reckless' always makes me grin. Doesn't come across as an Election winning name. :lol: Like the name 'Lawless' for a Solicitor. Or the Doctor in one of the Carry On Films - Dr. Killmore. :D

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The trouble is the tories have all this dumb yanks formulating election strategy, who see things from completely the two party US system viewpoint. They assume the tories can move to the left and pick up centre votes without losing votes to the right, as happens in the US. If you're a rightwinger there, its the republicans or bust. In Europe we have alternatives to both the tories on the right and labour to the left. The tories need to embrace freedom, quit with their housing market interventions and accept they'll get more right wing votes than centre votes if they embrace conservatism.

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Resigned the seat also triggering another potentially embarrassing by election for Cameron.

I say potentially as I don't know the strengths and weaknesses of the Tories vs UKIP in that part of the world.

If UKIP have two seats come Xmas Cameron is finished.

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Looks like the worm is turning against the Tories.

The name 'Reckless' always makes me grin. Doesn't come across as an Election winning name. :lol: Like the name 'Lawless' for a Solicitor. Or the Doctor in one of the Carry On Films - Dr. Killmore. :D

I hope Andy Slaughter Labour MP joins UKIP...LOL

Seem to remember Reckless hitting the headlines because he got pished in the commons bar the night before an important vote so missed the vote.

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I noticed when Cameron pumped his 100,000 sub-standard homes for FTB suckers yesterday he said they wouldn't be available to 'foreigners'. Sounded like a BNP idiot.

He's not just losing MPs, he's also losing the plot.

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I noticed when Cameron pumped his 100,000 sub-standard homes for FTB suckers yesterday he said they wouldn't be available to 'foreigners'. Sounded like a BNP idiot.

He's not just losing MPs, he's also losing the plot.

So it's possible Farage knew about the Tories home discount announcement and made a comment about non-nationals buying houses before hand to rain on their parade.......Cameron's 'foreigners' comment was ill-judged in no small part perhaps because it was added by script-writers at the last minute to counter Farage's statement?

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More evidence that UKIP is a far bigger threat to the Conservatives than to Labour. Looking more and more likely that it'll be Miliband in Number 10.

You know, I'd actually vote for Miliband in preference to Cameron...... less dangerous.

Thankfully there is UKIP.

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So it's possible Farage knew about the Tories home discount announcement and made a comment about non-nationals buying houses before hand to rain on their parade.......Cameron's 'foreigners' comment was ill-judged in no small part perhaps because it was added by script-writers at the last minute to counter Farage's statement?

It wasn't very Prime-ministerial. Farage knows exactly which buttons to press to get Cameron to respond. Cameron's very unwise to rise to it, but seems incapable of not veering to the right. All he'll do is lose the centre which is why he'll lose the election. He seems rather prone to these desperate poorly thought through responses.

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Haha, if they can keep up this rate of 1 defection a month... :D

I wonder how long before a Labour MP defects? That will really shake up the tired old "vote X, get Y" line.

Looks like politics over the next year is going to get verrrrry interesting!

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Conservative spokesman saying that "A vote for UKIP is a vote for Ed Miliband" :lol::lol::lol:.

Better get used to that line, you'll hear it approximately 18 million times between now and May 2015.

Here's the Conservative manifesto for the 2015 general election:

1. Triple lock state pensions and a sprinkling of freebies for old people. Grey vote: check

2. Various schemes to pump money into the housing market without doing anything to increase supply. HPI fanatic vote: check

3. We are not Ed Miliband, isn't he an awful and weird Oxford PPE-educated robot, not like our nice normal Tory Oxford PPE-educated robots

Job done, 5 more years in Downing Street for EA Dave and Sam Cam, or so they think.

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Looks like politics over the next year is going to get verrrrry interesting!

It really isn't. On 8th May 2015 the UK will have one of the following governments:

1. Labour majority

2. Labour-Lib Dem coalition

3. Conservative-Lib Dem coalition

4. Conservative majority

Any of these seem like something to look forward to?

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It really isn't. On 8th May 2015 the UK will have one of the following governments:

1. Labour majority

2. Labour-Lib Dem coalition

3. Conservative-Lib Dem coalition

4. Conservative majority

Any of these seem like something to look forward to?

A depressing thought, I am more optimistic. perhaps a coalition including UKIP.

Okay, it's a long shot, but if enough of us vote for them...........

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A depressing thought, I am more optimistic. perhaps a coalition including UKIP.

Okay, it's a long shot, but if enough of us vote for them...........

I am optimistic, but not about the 2015 election. The priced-out generation just won't have the numbers to make its presence felt so it'll be politics as usual. 2020 should be a more interesting affair as the median voter by age will have been born in the late 1970s so not old enough to be definitely on the right side of the UK's property debt Ponzi scheme.

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The trouble is the tories have all this dumb yanks formulating election strategy,

Yes, and the Tories are giving a significant amount of dosh to Lynton Crosby, the Aussie strategist who "masterminded" Michael Howard's disastrous 2005 campaign.

With their continuing portrayal of Ed Miliband as "weak", it must be exceedingly frustrating for the Tories that they don't have a mammoth lead in the opinion polls. I think they are underestimating Miliband.

Moreover, the Tories have only themselves to blame for their unpopularity and the success of UKIP: Cameron reneged on his pre-election "cast-iron guarantee" to give the British people an in-out referendum on the EU. We know he won't give us a referendum, and if he does then he'll campaign hand-over-fist for an "in" vote.

As for Mark Reckless: it's a brilliant move, beautifully timed to inflict maximum damage to the struggling Tories.

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