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In the US they call them 'low information voters'...people who vote how TV tells them to.

Are you telling me there's an informed way of choosing who to vote for in the UK?

I reckon you may as well wipe your botty with the ballot paper.

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In the US they call them 'low information voters'...people who vote how TV tells them to.

Yes, when asked why they vote Labour, the stock answer is, well because my dad did and his dad before him..

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Markets will now suspect Labour will be in charge next May (Tories are dis-integrating, a second MP defected to UKIP).

Does that mean interest rates rises?

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Yes, when asked why they vote Labour, the stock answer is, well because my dad did and his dad before him..

There is of course an exact Conservative equivalent to this.

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Heh, at some point the dam will burst. Must be close now...

People have been saying that since 2007 and there have been a few leaks but no real burst. Japan have managed to keep it going for nearly 25 years. There will be no significant interest rate rises because there can't be, the outcome for any political party that allowed it would be worse than leaving them at zero, millions homeless, repossessions of family homes on a scale never seen before.

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People have been saying that since 2007 and there have been a few leaks but no real burst. Japan have managed to keep it going for nearly 25 years. There will be no significant interest rate rises because there can't be, the outcome for any political party that allowed it would be worse than leaving them at zero, millions homeless, repossessions of family homes on a scale never seen before.

You don't need rate hikes if the debt Ponzi is sufficiently over-extended.The US housing market turned over and collapsed in 2006/7 while the Fed funds rate remained essentially static throughout. The UK is accelerating up the exponential ramp at a much faster lick than Japan.

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People have been saying that since 2007 and there have been a few leaks but no real burst. Japan have managed to keep it going for nearly 25 years. There will be no significant interest rate rises because there can't be, the outcome for any political party that allowed it would be worse than leaving them at zero, millions homeless, repossessions of family homes on a scale never seen before.

Thankyou for your valuable opinion, clearly the finical geniuses of UK politics have invented a perpetual boom machine. The names of George Osborne and Gordon Brown will go down in history, their theories and methods will be taught in all future economic courses around the world. It's literally inconceivable that the plates could stop spinning. The UK is indeed a industrial and finical powerhouse of an economy as can be seen in our debt figures and our balance of trade numbers, which we can easily witness as our products are shipped around the world, unlike Japan, who really don't make anything at all.

Oh, by the way, that was sarcasm, just incase you lacked the cognitive ability to comprehend the bleeding obvious.

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Are you telling me there's an informed way of choosing who to vote for in the UK?

I reckon you may as well wipe your botty with the ballot paper.

Americans usually vote on who has the best hair and teeth.

Seems as good a method as any given the choice on offer...

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It seems that everyone except the tribal Labour voters remember what a toxic disaster they were last time around.

Yes but its fresh in the memory how much of a toxic disaster Dave and the out of their depth gang are.

We need a party to bring this nation to rock bottom, with Ed and Ed in charge we have 2 f00k ups with that ability.

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None of the parties have any great control of the economy, the economy is steering itself....got past that point, so no return to normality, small actions will mean huge consequences.....any big bang of change to will come from outside, out of our hands... it must have stimulus, the cash must continue to flow....not so much what we have, more about the faith confidence and trust others have of us......

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Yes but its fresh in the memory how much of a toxic disaster Dave and the out of their depth gang are.

We need a party to bring this nation to rock bottom, with Ed and Ed in charge we have 2 f00k ups with that ability.

I agree, people should vote tactically so that liebor can be bought back to clean the bed they shat in. Ideally, in a majority parliament. It may seem harsh but many on the left still believe that that the reason for the credit crunch was because Blair/Brown weren't left wing enough.

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Thankyou for your valuable opinion, clearly the finical geniuses of UK politics have invented a perpetual boom machine. The names of George Osborne and Gordon Brown will go down in history, their theories and methods will be taught in all future economic courses around the world. It's literally inconceivable that the plates could stop spinning. The UK is indeed a industrial and finical powerhouse of an economy as can be seen in our debt figures and our balance of trade numbers, which we can easily witness as our products are shipped around the world, unlike Japan, who really don't make anything at all.

Oh, by the way, that was sarcasm, just incase you lacked the cognitive ability to comprehend the bleeding obvious.

What we all should have learned last time (and those amongst us who aren't arrogant /blind did learn) is that the guys who said we're in a new paradigm were right.

Right now the economy is just numberwang. It's an insane fantasy that only works because it's run by fantasists. But think of the flip side - when your economy is a fantasy you can dream up whatever rules you like to keep the fantasy running.

At some point the fantasy will end, either nuclear war or resource constraints will force us back to reality, but at that point its no longer about houses and interest rates/housebuying will be the least of everyone's worries.

The question is what are you going to do between now and then? Because sitting the game out waiting for it to change is going to leave you very frustrated, unhappy and ultimately as potless as everyone else.

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What we all should have learned last time (and those amongst us who aren't arrogant /blind did learn) is that the guys who said we're in a new paradigm were right.

Right now the economy is just numberwang. It's an insane fantasy that only works because it's run by fantasists. But think of the flip side - when your economy is a fantasy you can dream up whatever rules you like to keep the fantasy running.

At some point the fantasy will end, either nuclear war or resource constraints will force us back to reality, but at that point its no longer about houses and interest rates/housebuying will be the least of everyone's worries.

The question is what are you going to do between now and then? Because sitting the game out waiting for it to change is going to leave you very frustrated, unhappy and ultimately as potless as everyone else.

just ignore it.

get on with life.

watching and waiting is going to frustrate, just as a good doctor could get frustrated watching casualty, he knows what is wrong, but everyone seems oblivious. best is to ignore it.

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None of the parties have any great control of the economy, the economy is steering itself....got past that point, so no return to normality, small actions will mean huge consequences.....any big bang of change to will come from outside, out of our hands... it must have stimulus, the cash must continue to flow....not so much what we have, more about the faith confidence and trust others have of us......

Money is not the economy.

That(money) they DO have control of.

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