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Not really a house price related thread - but definitely East Anglia based.

To cut a long question short, bearing in mind that policies and attitudes vary from one county council to another across this land.......

Have been looking at just possibly purchasing a modest speculative plot in one of a number of possible personally desired Norfolk locations (North Norfolk is personally preferred to much of the Southern parts). Speculative in that the plots are all located either in immediate vicinity of existing cluster of residential properties (as opposed to the only nearby structures/buildings being purely farming related). Most are advertised as amenity land, grazing land (some with modest stables already on site), some with mains power and water already connecting and serving the plot, etc. BUT none with any form of planning permission.

Obvious question you can all see coming here is.....given, in particular, their proximity to existing housing what are the odds of a planning request (to build a dwelling) being refused in this part of the world? I attach a simple schematic illustration broadly representative of the sort of scenario I have in mind - a simple 0.25 acre 'grazing' plot, enclosed by a tree lined boundary, sited in the midst of 5 to 10 or so other existing modest houses, sited on a country lane with nearest village at least 1/2 mile away.

Some plots, not having any uplift clause attached to them, I have noted are priced such that on a per acre basis puts them on a level very nearly to those comparable sized plots that already have at least outline permission granted. This makes me wonder IF this can be used as a guide to the increased likelihood of permission being granted, if requested - and the vendor and EA pricing accordingly (rather than price lower but include an uplift clause). Other plots are usually priced much lower but come with uplift clauses attached.

Finally, does anyone have any knowledge (either first hand or told to them) of how planning policies/attitudes vary for the various different regions within the county?

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Is the plot within the local area plan?

There are many I am looking at so don't know yet the situation for each one.

But, for arguments sake, lets say not.....and that the mentioned adjacent/nearby housing is not pre-WW2 (in some cases all of them appear to be post-1960's). How much harder does that make things?

EDIT UPDATE:

I have just now picked one plot at random and done a Google search that took me to a Norfolk Council related website which had a section on one page that says:

"The following places do not have any specific policies or maps for them, and only the area-wide policies apply to development in them."

The plot resides in one of those named areas. So what does that mean with regards odds of getting permission? Better? or likely worse? or still just a pure coin toss?

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None of the new housing in Sawtry near Huntingdon was within the area of the local area plan. That was ignored completely on appeal - the appeal hearing was held in Wyboston. None of the objections were taken into account. The adjudication suggested that the lack of parking space on the new estate could be countered by re-routing the bus down a completely unsuitable road. This caused the bus company to review the route and stop running it at all. As an ex-bus driver I can tell you it would have been a nightmare with cars parked either side providing ample opportunity to scrape and prang the bus.

Now they want to build anti social housing next to the A1M to provide a noise shield for the houses they want to build in a horse field that floods since brick clay makes it waterproof.

I fully expect them to succeed with this application as well. After all they allowed a sex shop against all the howls of protest from the locals.

Could you get permission? Yes, if your name is Permisson or Taylor Wimpey but probably not if its Joe bloggs.

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On 18 September 2014 at 4:15 PM, Travisher said:

None of the new housing in Sawtry near Huntingdon was within the area of the local area plan. That was ignored completely on appeal - the appeal hearing was held in Wyboston. None of the objections were taken into account. The adjudication suggested that the lack of parking space on the new estate could be countered by re-routing the bus down a completely unsuitable road. This caused the bus company to review the route and stop running it at all. As an ex-bus driver I can tell you it would have been a nightmare with cars parked either side providing ample opportunity to scrape and prang the bus.

Now they want to build anti social housing next to the A1M to provide a noise shield for the houses they want to build in a horse field that floods since brick clay makes it waterproof.

I fully expect them to succeed with this application as well. After all they allowed a sex shop against all the howls of protest from the locals.

Could you get permission? Yes, if your name is Permisson or Taylor Wimpey but probably not if its Joe bloggs.

Served as a Rural Areas Planning Committee member for 14 years. The allegations that I heard in that time regarding graft would make your hair curl! And these were direct from Councillors, not Chinese Whispers.

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