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Would A Yes Vote Trigger An Immediate Westminster Election?

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If the Scots vote yes would that mean an immediate election for Westminster?

Surely the Scottish MP's would immediately be kicked out as they would now be "foreign". Has there been any serious discussion anywhere about what the political implications are for the rest of the UK? Would the Conservatives immediately have a working majority if the Scottish MP's are lost?

Would it trigger boundary changes in the UK?

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I'm sure you'd let the Scottish MPs stay at Westminster till you'd re provided facilities for your nuclear subs south of the border. About 20 years should do it.

Why would there be boundary changes?

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Hopefully.

XYY says "pay attention pale ginger people from yon side of Hadrian's wall - do your duty and vote YES...!!!"

XYY

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If the Scots vote yes would that mean an immediate election for Westminster?

Surely the Scottish MP's would immediately be kicked out as they would now be "foreign". Has there been any serious discussion anywhere about what the political implications are for the rest of the UK? Would the Conservatives immediately have a working majority if the Scottish MP's are lost?

Would it trigger boundary changes in the UK?

No, it wouldn't as the law states the next election is to be on the first Thursday in May.

And a yes vote would not be the legal mechanism for Scotland becoming independent, so those Scots MPs would be able to stay. There would be no need for boundary revisions anywhere in England, Wales or Northern Ireland since there is no requirement to have a fixed number of MPs.

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There would be no need for boundary revisions anywhere in England, Wales or Northern Ireland since there is no requirement to have a fixed number of MPs.

What...? Not even that large metal boundary you've been twittering-on about all week...?

Queer bugger you like crashy...

;)

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No difference business as usual.

If they vote yes come May 2015 it will no difference business as usual. Scotland will still elect MP's to send to Westminster.

Post the yes vote there is a period (2 years I think it is) to sort of the transitional treaties and mechanism. At some date yet to be negotiated Scotland will cease to send MP's to Westminster Probably years off. Same for the Faslane facility. There will be a workup period say 20 years where rUK's Nuclear weapons have to be moved to another facility.

At the same time the calls for regional devolution for England will be deafening.

But then it will be a no vote anyway.

When push comes to shove and the uncertainty people stick with the status quo. Wee Eck has not made a convincing case regarding the currency and the plan B.

The Westminster( and the BOE) parties are not joking when they say there will not be a currency union. Wee eck still seems to think they are.....

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What...? Not even that large metal boundary you've been twittering-on about all week...?

Queer bugger you like crashy...

;)

XYY

The fences didn't create or revise boundaries, merely marked them.

You know, Nato dick swingers acting like dogs on heat.

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Well Gordon Brown has more or less stopped turning up at Westminster already.

I'm not complaining, except we are still paying him.

Don't let Brown stress you renty - turn a blind-eye to him...

;)

XYY

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If the Scots vote yes would that mean an immediate election for Westminster?

Surely the Scottish MP's would immediately be kicked out as they would now be "foreign". Has there been any serious discussion anywhere about what the political implications are for the rest of the UK? Would the Conservatives immediately have a working majority if the Scottish MP's are lost?

Would it trigger boundary changes in the UK?

The referendum would just the start of the process .

The issue would be who is going to be negotiating the terms of for breaking up the existing UK which by its very nature is going to require fresh constitutional settlement for the rest of the UK. In particular what is going to happen with the 2015 UK wide General Election if Scotland votes Yes for independence. Will it be confined just to English, Welsh and Northern Irish constituencies since one assumes the terms of Scotland's separation would have to be negotiated by a Scottish Parliament and the terms will have to be agreed with a government representing the rest of the UK. I dont see much room for Scottish Westminster MPs in that process unless they are drafted in to represent any future Scottish government. They obviously can not be part of any rump UK government since they wont be have any constituents to represent in the revised UK successor state.There must also be doubts about whether they can continue to vote on any general legislative matters that purely relate to the rest of the UK once Scotland has voted for separation (ie the East Lothian question will have to be settled once and for all). You could end up with the bizarre situation post 2015 with a Labour majority government in charge of the current UK thanks to Scottish votes for Labour Westminster MPs in but with insufficient English Welsh and Northern Irish MPs to give it a majority in any successor UK state excluding Scotland. The legitimacy of any such government to undertake negotiations with a Scottish Parliament on behalf of English, Welsh and Northern Irish constituents must be open to question as would be its right to frame a long term legislative program for those peoples. Plenty of room for chaos here.

You can rest assured that Cameron, Osborne nor any other Westminster politician on the left or right has done any serious contingency planning for dealing with this situation

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If the Scots vote yes would that mean an immediate election for Westminster?

Quite the opposite, according to the Guardian.

PM could face calls to postpone UK election if Scots vote for independence.

David Cameron will face calls to take the unprecedented step in modern peacetime of postponing next year's UK general election by 12 months in the event of a vote for Scottish independence to avoid the prospect of a Labour government that would depend on Scottish MPs.

Amid warnings of a "constitutional meltdown" after a yes vote, which would place severe personal political pressure on the prime minister, a growing number of Tory MPs are saying they will call for legislation to be introduced to postpone the general election. It would be the first time since 1940, a year into the second world war, that a general election would have been postponed.

[continues...]

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Quite the opposite, according to the Guardian.

PM could face calls to postpone UK election if Scots vote for independence.

I don't think it can be done.

The Prime Minister has the power, by order made by Statutory Instrument under section 1(5), to provide that the polling day is to be held up to two months later than that date. Such a Statutory Instrument must be approved by each House of Parliament.

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Quite the opposite, according to the Guardian.

PM could face calls to postpone UK election if Scots vote for independence.

Quite the opposite, according to the Guardian.

PM could face calls to postpone UK election if Scots vote for independence.

Interesting article.

It echoes a few of the points I made above about the issues that would arise if a 2015 General Election returned a Labour government dependent for its majority on the votes of Scottish MPs. I dont suppose the Lib Dems would resist any amendments to the 2011 Parliament Act to extend Parliament by one year since they face electoral wipe out anyway. No wonder Labour is desperate for a No vote.

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