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'The TTIP is an aggressive expression of the ‘free market’ ideology that should have been binned with the financial crash'

From the article: In spite of previous suggestions to the contrary, the proposed EU-US free trade deal will, after all, include the NHS, trade minister Lord Livingston admitted on Monday. The deal, known as the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership or TTIP, is a priority of David Cameron’s government – a “once in a generation” opportunity. But officials have been taken aback by the extent of public hostility.

At the heart of this opposition is the fear that the TTIP will give big business vast new powers over public services like the NHS, and undermine rights at work, environmental protection and food safety standards. According to a poll commissioned by Unite, 68% of people in marginal constituencies oppose the inclusion of the NHS as part of the deal. Even among Tory voters, just 23% supported its inclusion.

After weeks of the government telling the public that “the NHS won’t be affected”, Lord Livingston has admitted that Cameron won’t exclude the NHS, because the TTIP is too good an opportunity to sell our “world class health services” to the US market. This also means US health corporations would gain new “rights” to sell their health services here. And should they be impaired from doing so by, let’s imagine, a future government abolishing the Health and Social Care Act, those corporations will have the right to sue the British government through a parallel legal structure created by the TTIP. They won’t even have to go through our domestic court system.

The same fate awaits other public services and potential public services, from education to transport and energy provision. Protecting or renationalising services will mean the government is forced to “compensate” foreign businesses that want to invest. [more at link]


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/02/eu-us-free-trade-deal-ttip-transatlantic-trade-investment-partnership

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Heads we lose, tails they win.

Indeed. The main point of course being that the TPP is not really about trade, it's about changing the regulatory process in ways that would almost certainly be opposed by the people in most of the countries included in the deal. Hence why TPTB have tried their damnedest to keep it all as secretive as possible.

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They were discussing this on the Liberal Democrat Voice forum a week or so ago.

Most Lib Dems seem to think it's good idea because 'it's all about free trade.' :rolleyes:

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This is all about lies, collusion and the interest of a few.

Is there really nothing than can be done about the treasonous behaviour at the top?

Maybe the first thing is to make people aware of the horrendous implications of TTIP.

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Maybe the first thing is to make people aware of the horrendous implications of TTIP.

Anything that even hints at the privatisation the NHS, directly or indirectly, is a cast-iron general election loser. Cameron's in deep enough shit as it is, the merest whiff of this gets out and Miliband's looking at a 100+ majority IMHO.

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Maybe the first thing is to make people aware of the horrendous implications of TTIP.

Firstly, thanks to the OP for bringing this topic up. The ramifications of this deal are humongous. It's already in place in Australia.

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The core of it is that any multinational can sue the government (and hence the taxpayers and voters) if some piece of legislation were to or purported to inhibit their profits.

Basically laws are to be made for the tacit approval of huge corporations. Forget about parliament. Forget about Brussels. Forget about policies of Tory/Lib/Lab/UKIP or others - your soveriegnty is signed away.

Best thing is just that this has been kept well off the radar and is not appearing in the MSM. The EU kleptocrats and bureaucrats have tried their damnest to keep this secret.

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I'm confused. Is the 'EUSSR' a quasi communist concern or an ultra liberal 5th column today?

Both I'd say.

But read the Philip Morris article I've linked to and you can find out what's coming down the line for you.

I guess this could be a total lie and the actual treaty - the one that the lizard people won't ever let us see - could say something different, but the details seem somewhat different from the contents of that Guardian article:

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1115

There is a response to an earlier TTIP article in The Graun, written by Ken Clarke : for he is the (ex) minister responsible for bringing TTIP to the UK.

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There are many weasel words about TTIP from our PTB, notably about ISDS and how they are 'consulting' and 'listening to our concerns', but here is the proof of the lie.

These are the (redacted) minutes of the LOTIS committee from June - the monthly meeting where the City gives our Government its instructions of what it wants. This comes from a FoI request to the Dept of Business, Lies and Corruption from whatdotheyknow.

Check out item 6.4 in which it is made clear that as the UK is the second largest Foreign Direct Investor in the world it objects to any watering down of its investor protection.

And note that the EU may be wavering, but it is the UK which is LEADING on this, not being held hostage by the EU!

I dread to think what's in the redacted bits... :unsure:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/219051/response/556434/attach/5/FOI%2014%2014959%20LOTIS%20Meeting%20Minutes%20June%202014%20Redacted%20Final.pdf

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Firstly, thanks to the OP for bringing this topic up. The ramifications of this deal are humongous. It's already in place in Australia.

linky

The core of it is that any multinational can sue the government (and hence the taxpayers and voters) if some piece of legislation were to or purported to inhibit their profits.

Basically laws are to be made for the tacit approval of huge corporations. Forget about parliament. Forget about Brussels. Forget about policies of Tory/Lib/Lab/UKIP or others - your soveriegnty is signed away.

Best thing is just that this has been kept well off the radar and is not appearing in the MSM. The EU kleptocrats and bureaucrats have tried their damnest to keep this secret.

Those trustworthy banks, stuffing the meeting, in what way do Gladman Scum represent the intersts of the Uk citizen?

Wonder what the redactions were, only whole truth has come from leaked documents, that is a scandalous situation in itself.

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