ChumpusRex Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The European Space Agency recently announced the successful launch of the first full-operational-capacity satellites for the Galileo satellite positioning system. What they failed to mention for quite some time after the launch was that they accidentally launched them into the wrong orbit and have no idea whether they will work correctly there or not. http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/08/arianespace-soyuz-st-b-galileo-mission/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Conveniently in the wrong orbit? Must not threaten the US system? China is launching its own system isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 GPS is rubbish! I just use a paper map! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Or perhaps it is a ruse to launch spy satellites? The Russian launch option is currently out for the Yanks and us to launch spy satellites so send two spy satellites up instead of the GPS ones and then claim that the two of them are lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 GPS is rubbish! I just use a paper map! But what happens when you want to go somewhere else other than MacDonalds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearwithasorehead Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Russians have their own GPS system too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 But what happens when you want to go somewhere else other than MacDonalds? I never want to find MacDonalds! When it is too dark for a map, I steer by the stars, like my ancestors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I never want to find MacDonalds! When it is too dark for a map, I steer by the stars, like my ancestors! Meerkats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Russians have their own GPS system too. 'GLONASS' has been around for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I wonder what security is put in place when the likes of the US, and presumably EU countries, send their satellites to Russia to be launched? 24 hour security until the payload is on top of the rocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I wonder what security is put in place when the likes of the US, and presumably EU countries, send their satellites to Russia to be launched? 24 hour security until the payload is on top of the rocket? European satellites are launched from French Guiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 European satellites are launched from French Guiana. and American ones from, well America. Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Europe, the UK and the US have been using Russia to launch satellites since the space shuttle was grounded. One of the worries the Yanks have had over Ukraine is whether the Russians will stop them launching satellites. The Yanks still have small payload capability, I think, but they have nothing for heavy payloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Russians have their own GPS system too. Wherever you start from you always end up in London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 What system does one use to position a new system of positioning satellites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The Yanks still have small payload capability, I think, but they have nothing for heavy payloads. According to Wikipedia: Falcon 9 - 13 tons to orbit Delta 4 Heavy - 28 tons to orbit Falcon Heavy (supposed to launch this year, I believe) - 53 tons to orbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Meerkats? No! Norse! How did you know my great^n grandfather's ship had a meerkat prow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 This is a good site - calendar diary of satellite launches from around the globe. Seems that everyone is doing it. http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I never want to find MacDonalds! When it is too dark for a map, I steer by the stars, like my ancestors! I'm surprised. I had you down as a seat-of-the-pants man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 What system does one use to position a new system of positioning satellites? A satellite positioning positioning system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I'm surprised. I had you down as a seat-of-the-pants man! http://www.vegagerdin.is/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The XYY Man Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 What system does one use to position a new system of positioning satellites? SID from 'UFO'... XYY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 http://www.vegagerdin.is/ Blimey! Some pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantic Purple Slug Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Thing is, people talk about these satellites like it is a complete disaster, but they are putting what, 30 up there for the gps system ? Statistically they can expect a few of them to go wrong. Putting satellites in orbit is not as easy as most people make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londislagerhound Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 GPS is rubbish! I just use a paper map! You have a map that knows where you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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