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http://news.sky.com/story/1320391/cameron-admits-policies-have-hurt-families

And lined the rich's pockets.

I'll be voting UKIP, I suggest everyone does.

DAVE, STOP HELPING US.

http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/08/18/george-needs-to-find-a-way-of-making-ukip-voters-less-economically-pessimistic/

'The Curtice view is that negative views on economic and financial matters are even greater defining features of UKIP voters than what they think about the EU or immigration.

Measures such pumping government money into schemes like “help to buy” properties really don’t impact on many UKIPers.

Increasing the minimum wage, however, might resonte.'

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I'll still never understand this concept:

The people in charge are retards who are lining their own nest. So i'll vote for Nigel Farage instead...

Let me explain it.

Vote Labour, get a bunch of self serving banker puppets hell bent on immigration and lining their own pocket

Vote Tory, get a bunch of self serving banker puppets hell bent on immigration and lining their own pocket

Vote Lib-dem, get labour or tory.

Vote UKIP, they might do what they say, then again they are probably a bunch of self serving banker puppets hell bent on immigration and lining their own pocket

It's not about voting UKIP, it's about not voting for the other parties who keep abusing their position.

If a massive amount of people voting UKIP doesn't send a shock wave across the elite/establishment then nothing will. At that point they might sit up and take notice for the next step after, I fear, that is civil unrest and people like myself leaving the country for good.

THERE IS NO OTHER REASONABLE OPTION.

TO vote for the same parties that have let us down time and time again is insane !!!

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Families on low wages get massive amounts of benefits so they can get by. It's the people on low wages without children that he and brown have shafted.

If a living wage was paid instead of benefits the 1% would have to lose out and single people would be a lot better off. Benefits benefit the rich.

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The PM and many of his MPs are complete bellends, in my view.

They have displayed a breathtaking flippancy over their pumping of the cost of shelter with idiotic policies designed only to secure votes.

When Dave talks about 'family friendly' policies he means more subsidies like HTB and more help with childcare costs. :rolleyes:

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THERE IS NO OTHER REASONABLE OPTION.

TO vote for the same parties that have let us down time and time again is insane !!!

How about Green? They are an actual alternative rather than a comedy version on steroids of what we have already.

http://greenparty.org.uk/values/housing-2010/

The only thing I'm not convinced about is their 'right to rent' proposal which i'd need to see in more detail to try and work out if the unintended consequences would actually result in house values remaining the same

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Families on low wages get massive amounts of benefits so they can get by. It's the people on low wages without children that he and brown have shafted.

If a living wage was paid instead of benefits the 1% would have to lose out and single people would be a lot better off. Benefits benefit the rich.

+1

some are not in 'families' as such and are no less deserving of consideration when formulating policies.

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I'll still never understand this concept:

The people in charge are retards who are lining their own nest. So i'll vote for Nigel Farage instead...

That's the thing though. I'll vote Farage. Its the rest of his party im not so sure about. Most people vote Farage, not UKIP.

Camerlegband all talk like theyre from another planet. In the case of miliband, I think he actually is from another planet.

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Let me explain it.

Vote Labour, get a bunch of self serving banker puppets hell bent on immigration and lining their own pocket

Vote Tory, get a bunch of self serving banker puppets hell bent on immigration and lining their own pocket

Vote Lib-dem, get labour or tory.

Vote UKIP, they might do what they say, then again they are probably a bunch of self serving banker puppets hell bent on immigration and lining their own pocket

It's not about voting UKIP, it's about not voting for the other parties who keep abusing their position.

If a massive amount of people voting UKIP doesn't send a shock wave across the elite/establishment then nothing will. At that point they might sit up and take notice for the next step after, I fear, that is civil unrest and people like myself leaving the country for good.

THERE IS NO OTHER REASONABLE OPTION.

TO vote for the same parties that have let us down time and time again is insane !!!

You've hit the nail on the head. I will be voting UKIP at the next election. It's too late for LibLabCon now. I don't care what policies these three conjur up between now and the election. My mind is made up NOW! I just want to shake up the whole flippin' establishment!

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That's the thing though. I'll vote Farage. Its the rest of his party im not so sure about. Most people vote Farage, not UKIP.

Camerlegband all talk like theyre from another planet. In the case of miliband, I think he actually is from another planet.

And what is it about this shyster ex-city boy bankrolled by hedge funds that makes you think he'll be looking out for you?

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You've hit the nail on the head. I will be voting UKIP at the next election. It's too late for LibLabCon now. I don't care what policies these three conjur up between now and the election. My mind is made up NOW! I just want to shake up the whole flippin' establishment!

Shake the establishment by voting for more of the same but with bells on. Why wouldn't voting Green be more likely to shake the establishment since they are actually radically different?

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Shake the establishment by voting for more of the same but with bells on. Why wouldn't voting Green be more likely to shake the establishment since they are actually radically different?

I am torn between green an UKIP. I would like the greens in but voting UKIP is going to kick the hornets nest a lot harder than voting green. With FPTP voting system I may as well not vote. I have never voted conservative and can't see me voting labour again. I think this is UKIP's year If we don't support them this year then it maybe labcon for the rest of our lives. A choice between two identical parties.

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It just electioneering. Vacuous rhetoric borne of some focus group. They are so removed from reality. Want to help families, stop shafting them with everything you do, and stop taking the piss.

The point isn't about just families, it's all of us who need help.

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Some Tory piece of sh7t is on CH4 news explaining that its the austerity that has hurt families.

The scum dont realise that its propping up the property market and their lack of austerity that is destroying families (like my own)

I do hope they Tory party suffer another bombing, it really would make me smile and wouldnt even come close to the destruction of ordinary people they have caused.

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And what is it about this shyster ex-city boy bankrolled by hedge funds that makes you think he'll be looking out for you?

Well, for a start the fact that he went the route of leaving the tories out of principle and joined an at the time relatively unknown minor party, a hell of a risk in politics, given that he had a secure future as a career politician as a tory. That alone makes me a hell of a lot more likely to trust him than anyone who has any association with lib lab con.

The fact that when questioned on a personal level, he seems to have very libertarian instincts...unfortunately UKIP seems more populist, but that's the reality of democracy. A pure libertarian party would get nowhere in the UK...yet.

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Shake the establishment by voting for more of the same but with bells on. Why wouldn't voting Green be more likely to shake the establishment since they are actually radically different?

Shake the establishment by voting for more of the same but with bells on. Why wouldn't voting Green be more likely to shake the establishment since they are actually radically different?

Because most of their candidates and policies are loony, tree-hugging, bike-clip-wearing shite, that might be tewwibly earnest and well-meaning, but won't attract the critical mass of the Wail-reading classes that will give LibLabCon a bloody nose.

I agree that there's no guarantee that we'll get anything different, but as TCON says, voting UKIP at the next election is about making a statement. Not only that, but if they get to any decent number of seats they're going to have to work out what they stand for, and what their policies are, and they're malleable and disorganised enough to be influencable at that point or maybe before.

You just can't say that for LibLabCon. The only response to any communication I've ever had, from my so-called "elected representative" Jeremy Rhyming-Slang, is the kind of fob-off, "there there little prole" sh!t that you see coming out of Grant Shapps' office.

So no, Mr Whatever-Cabinet-Job-You've-Weaseled-Into by the election: for the first time ever i'm voting totally against you; I'm going to be campaigning like b*ggery for UKIP; and I dream of having my own personal Portillo Moment when SW Surrey kicks your disgusting incompetent ass into the long grass in 2015.

THAT'S what it's about. Illogical? Possibly. The only way to make a real statement? Highly likely.

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Because most of their candidates and policies are loony, tree-hugging, bike-clip-wearing shite, that might be tewwibly earnest and well-meaning, but won't attract the critical mass of the Wail-reading classes that will give LibLabCon a bloody nose.

But that's the thing - most of their policies are spot on and include stuff like rent controls and taxing empty properties. I wish they'd change their name tbh because until i'd bothered reading up about them i assumed they were all yoghurt weaving hippies. I'm not sure where this bloody nose will come from as absolutely no poll of any note is forecasting that UKIP will get a single seat. That makes the Greens more a more viable bloody nose opportunity surely?

edited to add the following from the Green's manifesto. I'm not sure i've seen anything similar from UKIP. They did have a manifesto but I think Farage said it was nonsense. He's a funny chap. Like Boris. He should be on telly.

HO101 Affordable secure accommodation is a basic human need. Those without accommodation and those forced through lack of choice into inadequate or unaffordable housing may lead diminished lives and can be socially excluded, unable to participate fully in the life of the community.

HO102 The inadequate and inequitable provision of housing in this country today is the result of inequalities in access to resources, particularly land, the inability of the free market to meet diverse housing needs and a lack of investment in public housing spanning over two decades. To eradicate these inequalities it is essential to bring housing policies under local participatory democratic control.

HO103 The Green Party seeks a balanced mix of housing tenures, to meet the diverse needs of the community. These include individual and shared home ownership, leasehold, and others. Disincentives to the speculative ownership of housing will be introduced, including higher rates of Council Tax for unoccupied properties and second homes. People must not be forced into home ownership because there is no alternative. The Green Party seeks to increase the amount of social housing and commonly owned housing as representing the best way of ensuring an availability of affordable housing.

HO107 The private rented sector has a role in meeting housing need, particularly in areas with prohibitively high house prices, for those unable or unwilling to borrow money, for people on low incomes who do not qualify for socially provided housing and for short term accommodation. This sector needs to have rents controlled and tenants provided with additional legal protection.

HO108 The increase in homelessness is partly the result of ineffective housing policy and lack of investment in housing over the last twenty years. Policies are urgently needed to change the homelessness legislation, to maximise the use of empty property, and to increase the security of anyone occupying a property as their home. Reform of the housing benefit system would ensure that late payments cannot cause homelessness and stop landlords discriminating against those on benefit.

HO109 National government has considerable powers to alleviate the housing crisis. However, many of the policies required are more suited to implementation locally, enabled and assisted by national government.

HO110 The Green Party supports the introduction of the mortgage bond system used in Germany, Sweden and Denmark but currently unavailable in the UK. This longer-term funding source would have fixed rates of interest and would be tightly regulated to control risks.

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High house prices hurt young families.....two full time working, stressed, low paid parents hurt the children of working families....working families have fewer children. Non working families have bigger families... happy parents + happy children = happy families. ;)

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High house prices hurt young families.....two full time working, stressed, low paid parents hurt the children of working families....working families have fewer children. Non working families have bigger families... happy parents + happy children = happy families. ;)

Like all socialist scum who love big government Cameron prefers the proles to rely on big government as opposed to family, hence why his policies make sure the state hands out the cash to feed as many families as humanly possible.

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Please don`t make a statement, put your cross on the paper in the usual way.

And remember UKIP are somewhere around the bottom of the voting slip.

I was going to vote for them but id prefer to vote BNP or a party that genuinely puts the British first. UKIP put NIMBY's and Boomers first.

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