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From 'Argumenti i Fakti' (google translation)

Russia can expand sanctions against the European Union, the United States and other countries. Appropriate proposals, the Government sent to President Vladimir Putin , according to"Vedomosti" citing federal officials.

Since August 7, Russia has restricted the import into their territories of food products from the EU, USA, Canada, Norway and Ukraine. More information about the ban, read the help >>

This measure was a response to the introduction of the West sanctions against Russia. Learn more in Help >>

What are the new sanctions can enter Russia?

  • Close transit for European and American airlines

Russian officials in early August considering restrict or even prohibit the transit of European Airlines flights to Asia through Russia. Read more about what this ban will turn to air carriers, read the help >>

  • Prohibit the import of cars

This option is also considered in the government. Russia may be fully or partially to prohibit the import of cars from unfriendly countries. Demand can be achieved at the expense of domestic production, primarily enterprises operating in industrial assembly.

  • Restrict the import of medical devices

The official stressed that the issue was "sensitive and requires further discussion."

  • Restrict the supply of food from Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia

The two countries signed an association agreement with the European Union in late June. Deputy of the State Duma of the Roman Khudyakov (LDPR) has proposed to distribute food sanctions on these countries, write "Izvestia" .

Earlier, Russia banned the import of wine from Georgia and Moldova, and in late July Rosselhoznadzor expressed his dissatisfaction with fruit coming from Moldova.

Link http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/actual/1318484

Does anyone honestly think the Ukraine is worth it?

Currently the ban on agricultural products is leaving Europe with a glut of pork, pears, fish and other fruit. Poland and Lithuania are big losers.

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A ban on flights over Russia Airspace will be the biggie - if they go ahead with it. Would add hours onto trips East, and the fuel costs would begin to bankrupt numerous European airlines.

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Does anyone honestly think the Ukraine is worth it?

That's a question for the Russians as they seem determined to make their own people bear the burden of these sanctions. "No decent cars or medicine but we have Crimea!"

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Poland and Lithuania are big losers.

Polish people and government on balance hate Russia and pushed the EU to act hence Putin is going after them. The apple ban, will take 0.35% off their GDP and they have elections next year. Putin isn't stupid.

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That's a question for the Russians as they seem determined to make their own people bear the burden of these sanctions. "No decent cars or medicine but we have Crimea!"

Putins approval rating is 86%.....don't underestimate the nationalism of the Russians and the willingness of the people to suffer for the "greater good" of the country. Underestimating their resolve has happened many times throughout history and usually results in a Russian victory.

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Russians are used to far worse. They can put up with it indefinitely. The question is whether the EU can ....

Western Europe prospered with an iron curtain across the continent indefinitely. If it happens again the only difference would be that the western side would be twice the size as it was during the Cold War.

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From 'Argumenti i Fakti' (google translation)

Link http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/actual/1318484

Does anyone honestly think the Ukraine is worth it?

Currently the ban on agricultural products is leaving Europe with a glut of pork, pears, fish and other fruit. Poland and Lithuania are big losers.

My Polish friends tell me Russia regularly applies agricultural import restrictions on Poland, whenever they want to bully the Polish. The Polish in general are very much in favour of the EU standing up to Russia here. They do fear a future where Russia wields greater power in Eastern Europe - they've been through that before.

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Polish people and government on balance hate Russia and pushed the EU to act hence Putin is going after them. The apple ban, will take 0.35% off their GDP and they have elections next year. Putin isn't stupid.

Will the apple ban reduce the number of apples consumed globally? Will it increase the global production of apples? I suggest the answers are no and no which means that at most it can create some short-term disruption.

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Will the apple ban reduce the number of apples consumed globally? Will it increase the global production of apples? I suggest the answers are no and no which means that at most it can create some short-term disruption.

Not sure why the temporary nature matters? If you are a polish apple farmer(?) and you lose a years earnings (or 2 if it drags on) then you won't be happy.

It's good for us, assuming you like apples as prices will be soft.

Edited by bankstersparadise

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They'll never get us. We don't export anything.

We 'export' prime London housing equity. They could viciously ban rich Ruskies from buying up prime London. That'd teach us. ;)

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Does anyone honestly think the Ukraine is worth it?

Yes!

Oleksandr Turchynov Chairperson of the Verkhovna Rada is sure that within five years Ukraine will be able to implement all reforms needed to accede to the European Union and will be completely ready to join this institution. http://newskitchen.eu/2014/08/18/oleksandr-turchynov-within-five-years-ukraine-will-be-able-to-implement-all-reforms-needed-to-accede-to-the-eu/

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Yes!

Oleksandr Turchynov Chairperson of the Verkhovna Rada is sure that within five years Ukraine will be able to implement all reforms needed to accede to the European Union and will be completely ready to join this institution. http://newskitchen.eu/2014/08/18/oleksandr-turchynov-within-five-years-ukraine-will-be-able-to-implement-all-reforms-needed-to-accede-to-the-eu/

I would laugh if it wasn't so sad.....poor bastards.

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My Polish friends tell me Russia regularly applies agricultural import restrictions on Poland, whenever they want to bully the Polish. The Polish in general are very much in favour of the EU standing up to Russia here. They do fear a future where Russia wields greater power in Eastern Europe - they've been through that before.

Or, you could say, Russians apply sanctions when Poland does the US' bidding.

Russia imposed a beef ban as a result of the missile crisis. It also closed the water border on the Vistula lagoon, seriously affecting trade through the Port of

Elblag . . . and are soon likely to do this again.

Now Poland will see a pork, beef and fruit ban. That's a huge amount of produce. Even France exports - or rather used to export - around 1 bn of foodstuffs per year.

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Not sure why the temporary nature matters? If you are a polish apple farmer(?) and you lose a years earnings (or 2 if it drags on) then you won't be happy.

It's good for us, assuming you like apples as prices will be soft.

Are the Russians the only people who eat apples?

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Not sure why the temporary nature matters? If you are a polish apple farmer(?) and you lose a years earnings (or 2 if it drags on) then you won't be happy.

It's good for us, assuming you like apples as prices will be soft.

EU has already stepped in to buy them up. So we've already paid higher prices whether we want to or not...they'll probably sit rotting in a shed somewhere, just as the CAP food mountains of the 90s.

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Putins approval rating is 86%.....don't underestimate the nationalism of the Russians and the willingness of the people to suffer for the "greater good" of the country. Underestimating their resolve has happened many times throughout history and usually results in a Russian victory.

If I was Russian, even I would vote for Putin :)

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Will the apple ban reduce the number of apples consumed globally? Will it increase the global production of apples? I suggest the answers are no and no which means that at most it can create some short-term disruption.

Yes, eventually they will find new markets . . . but it will take some time . . . and not always replace existing demand. Poland had a beef ban for two years following the missile crisis . . . that hurt. No one else eats sprats like the Russians, so the 'sprat wars' cost Latvia.

Georgia had a wine ban before . . . but Georgian wines are popular in Russia. Is anyone else going to take them over French or even South African Wine? And they will have to compete with all the unsold Bulgarian wine . . . and so on.

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Yes, eventually they will find new markets . . . but it will take some time . . . and not always replace existing demand. Poland had a beef ban for two years following the missile crisis . . . that hurt. No one else eats sprats like the Russians, so the 'sprat wars' cost Latvia.

Georgia had a wine ban before . . . but Georgian wines are popular in Russia. Is anyone else going to take them over French or even South African Wine? And they will have to compete with all the unsold Bulgarian wine . . . and so on.

Wine is a bit different because it's not a commodity product in the same way and it takes time to develop new markets.

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Are the Russians the only people who eat apples?

Before the Russian sanctions wholesale Apples - price was 0.45 - 0.50 a Kg and now it is € 0.26 - 0.28 a Kg. The farmers production cost is about

0.40 a Kg.

And that's the problem!

Edited by rollover

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