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Should Anti-Tattoo Discrimination Be Illegal?


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They don't call you Mr Pin for nothing....likes to keep things as clean as a pin. ;)

Miss butterfly got married to a friend of mine, and now has a daughter! It think I missed a good one there! :blink:

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A colleague's daughter had a tattoo etched around her navel. No prizes for guessing what happened to it after she eventually became pregnant. Another case of bitterly regretting youthful folly, esp. since (I suspect from other anecdotes) it was done largely on the principle that anything that appalled her parents was a good enough reason for doing it.

I know someone else who had a tattoo done as a very young man when he first went into the army. Apparently you were a wimp if you didn't have one. He regrets it very much now, and dislikes wearing anything that shows it.

I wonder what the tattooed parents' kids will do to appall their parents. :unsure:

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I'm a middle class boy but ended up in a working class industry. I've seen the arm tats on various 50-something colleagues that they had done as young men and they look, frankly, shite after 20+ years of fading. My rebellious middle brother, who's 22 months younger than me, had a ~3" round tribal tat on his shoulder when he was 16 and well into mid-late 90s happy hardcore raving...he totally regrets it now; it doesn't look too terrible yet though it's already smudging, but he wants rid and is thinking of having it lazered.

But that said 8YI isn't in a minority of one, I also think that freshly done tattoos can look great, though for whatever (probably repressed, prudish middle class) reason I find them a turn-off on women. The guy I share a job with on a part time basis has enormous arms through years of captain upper body gym activity and a couple of years ago (in his late 20s I think) had both of them sleeved with the most amazing Japanese style flowers and Kabuki puppets, and they look amazing. I just don't think they'll look amazing when he's 50!

A couple of years ago my sister in law booked us all a holiday in an all inclusive beach hotel in Ibiza, which was a nice enough place, but in October largely populated by working class Brits with young families, and a few Germans. One young (and slightly harassed looking) mum who was there for long enough that I ended up exchanging nods and smiles as we passed, was really tall and pretty, but had a pretty awful big leopard spot design over her shoulder and upper arm- in mostly red! I dread to think what that'll look like when it fades.

As always in such places the best chatting and socialising was outside smoking on the terrace while the lame entertainment was on in the bar. Towards the end of the holiday a nice young German lad in his early 20s settled down next to me for a fag so we shot the breeze as it would have been more awkward not to. "So, are you English?" he said, to which I answered in the affirmative. "But you haven't got any tattoos!"

Then his equally nice young German girlfriend turned up with a couple of tats on her ankles!

FWIW though I'll almost certainly never get a tat, I did want a belly button ring when I was a teenager, and so when I'd just turned 18 I got drunk and shoved a safety pin through the lower side of it. I did a pretty wonky job, it's probably 20 degrees off from the vertical, but I've worn a ring in it 90% of the time since, and have a white gold one in there now.

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I think the 5 people admitting to having tattoos should fess up and then they should be expelled from the HPC.

I have five tattoos on my upper arms. No regrets about any of them. My wife likes them. I would give this advice to any young person thinking of getting one. Make a good drawing of what you want and put it away for a year. If in a years time you still want it then maybe it is a good idea. Nothing that shows when you are dressed for work. You may think it wrong that people are prejudiced against tattoos but we live in the real world. Anything on the face or neck is a real jobstopper.

Please don't expel me from HPC.

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I have five tattoos on my upper arms. No regrets about any of them. My wife likes them. I would give this advice to any young person thinking of getting one. Make a good drawing of what you want and put it away for a year. If in a years time you still want it then maybe it is a good idea. Nothing that shows when you are dressed for work. You may think it wrong that people are prejudiced against tattoos but we live in the real world. Anything on the face or neck is a real jobstopper.

Please don't expel me from HPC.

I have a tattoo on my upper arm and made sure it was done properly (by one of the UK's top tattoo artists that I actually liked). The trouble is it's done really well and I don't like the attention (albeit positive) it has brought me in the past (I hate being the centre of attention and random people coming up to me asking all sorts of things) so I keep it covered up mostly :D
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I have five tattoos on my upper arms. No regrets about any of them. My wife likes them. I would give this advice to any young person thinking of getting one. Make a good drawing of what you want and put it away for a year. If in a years time you still want it then maybe it is a good idea. Nothing that shows when you are dressed for work. You may think it wrong that people are prejudiced against tattoos but we live in the real world. Anything on the face or neck is a real jobstopper.

Please don't expel me from HPC.

Good advice (which would almost certainly be ignored by any young person wanting a tattoo :D ).

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I have a tattoo on my upper arm and made sure it was done properly (by one of the UK's top tattoo artists that I actually liked). The trouble is it's done really well and I don't like the attention (albeit positive) it has brought me in the past (I hate being the centre of attention and random people coming up to me asking all sorts of things) so I keep it covered up mostly :D

You know you have to post a pic of it now. Just do the inevitable, don't argue.

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If you have pale colours in a tattoo, its often very hard, if not impossible to get rid of it...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2731291/The-middle-class-women-desperate-erase-youthful-indiscretions-agony-endure-laser-away-trashy-tattoos.html

As for me, I have yet to see a tattoo on a "westerner" that has actually looked any good, however, some of the maori ones do look impressive..

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I was going to correct your typo, but maybe pics to asses was what you meant, and would be better anyway. :D

I am not sure I want to see some of the asses of the contributors to this thread !

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I have five tattoos on my upper arms. No regrets about any of them. My wife likes them. I would give this advice to any young person thinking of getting one. Make a good drawing of what you want and put it away for a year. If in a years time you still want it then maybe it is a good idea. Nothing that shows when you are dressed for work. You may think it wrong that people are prejudiced against tattoos but we live in the real world. Anything on the face or neck is a real jobstopper.

Please don't expel me from HPC.

Too late

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You know you have to post a pic of it now. Just do the inevitable, don't argue.

I'll have to squirm my way out of this one... the tattoo has faired better than myself. Two years of illness followed by nearly six years single handedly raising two children has taken it's toll on my body. I no longer have the muscle mass/definition to pull it off.

The artist was a guy called xed le head and there's plenty of his 'dot' work online. Like butterfly/bow tattoos on girls buttocks they are all much a muchness. On that note I'm about to head out on my bike for a 20km blast so you might see a bit of the tattoo poking out my t-shirt if you're in the midlands.

Sorry for being a wuss guys.

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There was a heavily tattooed bloke on my last holiday, head and some face too. V unusual for such a good hotel.

He and his partner were pretty much ignored / avoided by everybody including the waiters.

When you know that something will create an awful first impression and make people treat you like a pariah then why do it? The only job he could have got was a bouncer and he wasn't big enough.

Not a general observation about tattoos btw, but they do make me think (in a mild way) "prat", as does wearing of designer clothing with obvious logos.

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There was a heavily tattooed bloke on my last holiday, head and some face too. V unusual for such a good hotel.

He and his partner were pretty much ignored / avoided by everybody including the waiters.

When you know that something will create an awful first impression and make people treat you like a pariah then why do it? The only job he could have got was a bouncer and he wasn't big enough.

Not a general observation about tattoos btw, but they do make me think (in a mild way) "prat", as does wearing of designer clothing with obvious logos.

At a guess a conscious unconscious decision I.e. a state of mind/depression/self-harm.

From my own experience and looking back at the time it didn't feel like a bad decision and even now I have few regrets there but I am fairly certain it all stems from me being incredibly naive about what depression was and more telling how it manifests itself in people. I had this stereotype in mind that all depressives were sad people which ruled me out. Older and wiser I now understand that is not the case and that depression manifests itself in other ways and for me that was an incredibly destructive streak with very little concern for consequences (fights/stds(how I didn't catch any is beyond me/upsetting people). I've had a w/end off (first in a long time) and a few of my friends were retelling stories of my then 'legendary' behaviour and reminded me that I was on my *28th mobile number (my geeky friend kept a tally and entered them in his phone as such). I squirmed when they laughed that I must have slept with hundreds of women and I suppose for me that my inking is a permanent reminder of who I was back then. A fully signed up member of the t0sser brigades who I now despise.

If my daughter ever brings home a boyfriend with tattoos no matter how good or bad I'll pay him off to leave her alone. Now that makes me a hypocrite.

*for clarity my mobile number has not changed since I got married.

Edited: to add the word permanent.

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At a guess a conscious unconscious decision I.e. a state of mind/depression/self-harm.

From my own experience and looking back at the time it didn't feel like a bad decision and even now I have few regrets there but I am fairly certain it all stems from me being incredibly naive about what depression was and more telling how it manifests itself in people. I had this stereotype in mind that all depressives were sad people which ruled me out. Older and wiser I now understand that is not the case and that depression manifests itself in other ways and for me that was an incredibly destructive streak with very little concern for consequences (fights/stds(how I didn't catch any is beyond me/upsetting people). I've had a w/end off (first in a long time) and a few of my friends were retelling stories of my then 'legendary' behaviour and reminded me that I was on my *28th mobile number (my geeky friend kept a tally and entered them in his phone as such). I squirmed when they laughed that I must have slept with hundreds of women and I suppose for me that my inking is a permanent reminder of who I was back then. A fully signed up member of the t0sser brigades who I now despise.

If my daughter ever brings home a boyfriend with tattoos no matter how good or bad I'll pay him off to leave her alone. Now that makes me a hypocrite.

*for clarity my mobile number has not changed since I got married.

Edited: to add the word permanent.

That sounds a good rationale, I know a sensible c. 50 bloke who was asking people with tattoos which were good ones to get.

I thought he was mad but didn't say anything (colleague rather than friend) but he mentioned later about just having got divorced, so there was the underlying reason

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