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Second minister quits: '£120,000 not enough to live on in London'

Quick get the violins out, so even with unlimited expenses for everything you need £120k a year isn't enough to liven in London.

Clearly it's time to move the govt from Westerminister sell it off and move it up North where it's cheaper.

There's an easy fix.

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Half as many people were applying to be MPs today compared in 2001, he said, adding that “the negative impact on family life is a significant part of that”.He added: “If you want to attract normal people into Parliament to reflect the views of the population you have to got to put in place the support mechanisms to deliver that. I don’t believe those support mechanisms are in place and that is why I am going.

Make it possible for normal people to get into parliament in the first place by reducing the cost of standing for election, by reducing the £500 deposit and I'm sure more would stand.

Edited by Self Employed Youth

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This shows just how disconnected these b*ggers are - instead of staying and fighting for fairer living costs for all he appears to think that he can earn more elsewhere. Typical of people in politics and in the BBC.

How can they relate to people on average wages earning a fraction of the salary he does not think is enough.

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the tory shits didn't even allow a vote on PR, what chance of getting rid of the deposit?

Not surprising the git cant live on £120k given the size of his governments deficit. By and large, politicians are idiots with money. That's why they have to steal it. Sorry, claim it as 'expenses'

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Is it just me, or does anyone else understand this decision? If you can't make ends meet in your job, go get another one!

120K Sterling a year would be do-able here in Cambodia with its lower costs of most things, but I am sure that I would not put up with that sort of income in London...

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He (or at least the media reporting him) have misstated the problem. He should be telling the world it's time for a tea party in Boston and Skegness.

A junior minister quits the government.

He takes a job in London while his family live elsewhere: what does he expect? Did he not realise the job was in London? OK, lots of people have to do that kind of thing, but in his case there’s a real difference: as a member of the legislature, his job is supposed to be about improving the way things work. He could see the problem, he suffered from it himself: did he never think to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? At least, use his position as a platform from which to campaign, even if he can’t persuade the government to do anything.

As reported, he seems to be saying that being an MP is incompatible with his family life. WRONG: being an MP is just incompatible with NOT being a Londoner. If you’re not a native Londoner, you become a adoptive one by taking the effing job.

That’s why those of us out in the sticks are constitutionally excluded from representation in parliament. There can’t be many who are such complete idiots as to stand for parliament without wanting to live in London, or at the very least being indifferent to it. This man with family in Lincolnshire probably represents the place better than anyone qualified to be an MP. Or would have done, if only he hadn’t so totally wasted his opportunity to put our democratic deficitvoid onto the political agenda.

What a total idiot!

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From wikipedia


Born in Worksop, Simmonds went to Worksop College, then Trent Polytechnic, where he obtained a Bsc (Hons) degree in Urban Estate Surveying in 1986. He became an Associate of the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors in 1987. He worked as a surveyor for Savills from 1986–88 and was a partner in Strutt & Parker from 1988-96. He became a Director of Hillier Parker from 1997-9, then Managing Director of Mortlock Simmonds Brown from 1999 until becoming an MP, becoming Chairman.

The articles about his resignation don't say what he intends to do now but it's a fair guess.

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Clearly he quit because he was so gutted at selling his London property in 2010 and missing out. Perhaps he'll start posting here as an STR

I bet it was the potential profits from an MPs properties that attracted him in the first place. He's pocketed half a million from the sale of the property bought with expenses. I'd wager that he hasn't paid CGT on that sale. His housing allowance is £28,000 a year and he pays his wife £25,000 a year as an assistant.

Maybe he sees the top of the London market and doesn't want to be seen as in government as this sucker goes down. Is he the this governments Francesco Schettino, Captain of the Costa Concordia?

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In addition he gets £50k a year from Circle Healthcare for shilling for more private company involvement in the NHS.

How that is even legal I don't know.

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Clearly he quit because he was so gutted at selling his London property in 2010 and missing out. Perhaps he'll start posting here as an STR

Sold in 2010. Maybe he believed his own party's pre-election promises to savers and about rebalancing the economy etc - then they went and did the opposite.

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IMPO this is not getting the attention that it should on the TV news - probably because the BBC journos are on similar salaries and can't understand what the fuss is about? Doesn't everyone bring in over 120K a year?

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IMPO this is not getting the attention that it should on the TV news - probably because the BBC journos are on similar salaries and can't understand what the fuss is about? Doesn't everyone bring in over 120K a year?

Or because they're on similar salaries and they can see his point.

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IMPO this is not getting the attention that it should on the TV news - probably because the BBC journos are on similar salaries and can't understand what the fuss is about? Doesn't everyone bring in over 120K a year?

If the journos were to analyse it, they might come to the real problem: the fact that people living in Lincolnshire - or anywhere else out in the sticks - are CONSTITUTIONALLY EXCLUDED from representation in Parliament.

So long as they're chasing a strawman it looks like a silly squabble about money, and isn't interesting.

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He says that he has to live in Westminster, as if it would be such a horror to live somewhere a 30 minute commute away with the normal people. He should have just taken the high ground and followed Warsi.

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Clearly he quit because he was so gutted at selling his London property in 2010 and missing out. Perhaps he'll start posting here as an STR

:lol:

But this Tory git isn't the first. I seem to remember Earl Gowrie quitting as Arts Minister for the same reason back in the John Major days, but then he didn't get the MPs' salary on top of his ministerial salary because he was a member of the Lords.

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The UN has diverted aid convoys bound for Northern Iraq in a bid to save ‘destitute’ Foreign Office Minister Mark Simmonds.

Simmonds has been forced to eke out a meagre existence on a ‘paltry’ 90K per annum plus expenses, which is barely enough to keep his family in pheasant.

more here...

http://newsthump.com/2014/08/12/un-diverts-aid-convoys-to-penniless-mark-simmonds-mp/

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When you think about it, what do you spend most of a salary on, expenses .....therefore we should all get paid with expenses and use the salary as pin money to enjoy ourselves. ;)

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