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Aldous Huxley Vs George Orwell

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They are both right. If distraction doesn't work, then outright lies and coercion are deployed.

Yes. We had widespread fraud and theft by banks in London, then we had protests, then came the kettling and direct theft to pay the banks' bills.

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They are both right. If distraction doesn't work, then outright lies and coercion are deployed.

And fear! You forgot the fear! People don't think they are being coerced if they get frightened!

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I think there is one theme that runs thru' both author's works and for me at least it is a little bit concerning that Eton seems well disposed to producing this.

Both clearly felt dissociated from the lower classes.

Huxley went to work in Billingham for a short period and the industrial landscape and clearly the people he met for the first time will have had an effect on him. He obviously felt there were deltas and the boredom of the work it would clearly make sense to generate beings to fit those mechanical-like roles. It really is the views of a young emotionally undeveloped elitist.

Orwell went down a similar route - albeit was almost envious of the carefree, unthinking lives of the proles with ultimate freedom being the indian.

They really had nothing in common with ordinary people and felt totally apart, separate as though they were a different species.

Their views are an insight to the likes of Cameron, Osborne, Boris and the Lords - although these people are less thinking.

Whatever Orwell's attitudes to ordinary people he sussed out the nature of the Soviet Union, much to the chagrin of fellow leftists who believed in it as a worker's paradise.

Re-reading 1984 recently, I was struck by how up to date it is.

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I think there is one theme that runs thru' both author's works and for me at least it is a little bit concerning that Eton seems well disposed to producing this.

Both clearly felt dissociated from the lower classes.

Huxley went to work in Billingham for a short period and the industrial landscape and clearly the people he met for the first time will have had an effect on him. He obviously felt there were deltas and the boredom of the work it would clearly make sense to generate beings to fit those mechanical-like roles. It really is the views of a young emotionally undeveloped elitist.

Orwell went down a similar route - albeit was almost envious of the carefree, unthinking lives of the proles with ultimate freedom being the indian.

They really had nothing in common with ordinary people and felt totally apart, separate as though they were a different species.

Their views are an insight to the likes of Cameron, Osborne, Boris and the Lords - although these people are less thinking.

And Marx!

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Re-reading 1984 recently, I was struck by how up to date it is.

Yeah - and the mention of the "proles" / "deltas" brings up another fascinating parallel, viz. that in our day, in Britain certainly, most of the breeding seems to be done by the lower or underclass, on benefits of various kinds, while the middle class are too tax-squeezed to feel able to have many children, and are also having them much later than the lower 'uns.

Just as in the scene in 1984 where Winston contemplates a big fat prole woman who he guesses much have had at least 10 kids, whereas he reflects wistfully on himself and Julia that "out of their bodies no child would ever come".

And of course in BNW, it's specifically the gammas, deltas and epsilons who are mass-produced by stimulation of their ovaries to produce thousands of identical Bokanovsky twins.

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Orwell made a serious effort to find out the reality of the underclass. Down and out in Paris and London, The Spike, and The road to Wigan pier.

He came from a typical middle-class background, and only got to Eton as a King's scholar. His family couldn't afford uni, so off he went to the east, the warehouse for all the underperforming middle class youth of the time.

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Whatever Orwell's attitudes to ordinary people he sussed out the nature of the Soviet Union, much to the chagrin of fellow leftists who believed in it as a worker's paradise.

What???? 'Sussed'? But it has all them cornfields and ballet in the evenings!

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BNW had one of the most hilarious sentences I've ever read. 'The savage was in his room reading Romeo and Juliet'.

Strange New World we live in now. Anyone with a PC and the net can control the means of production. Music, graphics and manufacturing. Email the cad files and get a prototype sent to you. An individual can even get designer drugs made with a little rule bending.

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Orwell made a serious effort to find out the reality of the underclass. Down and out in Paris and London, The Spike, and The road to Wigan pier.

He came from a typical middle-class background, and only got to Eton as a King's scholar. His family couldn't afford uni, so off he went to the east, the warehouse for all the underperforming middle class youth of the time.

He also fought in the Spanish Civil War - the Syria of its time perhaps? So he at least walked the walk.

Huxley did a serious amount of drugs including LSD on his deathbed.

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Doesn't really matter whether Orwell or Huxley win this fight as both have previously been stopped inside the distance by Sir Kenneth Clark.

Jack Bodell will annihilate either one of 'em in the final...!

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