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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28495631

"English councils propose 'Tesco tax'"

"A group of local councils in England is formally asking the government for new powers to tax large supermarkets."

As far as I can tell the councils just want money, they want to spend it on themselves, their own departments, their own staff, their own wages, their own pensions, their own little empires.

They have lost touch of their purpose and something has to be done about them.

We need massive tax cuts, we need council sizes/powers reduced, we need council tax halved.

Who do we vote for to get this ?

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Good idea to raise taxes locally rather than centrally.

Central govt. have demonstrated a complete failure to tax large / global corporates who syphon cash out of local/domestic economy.

Good start but a much bigger/more holistic approach to generating local taxes is required as they have in the US.

The problem isn't Tesco per se - it's Westminster.

Edited by R K

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Good idea to raise taxes locally rather than centrally.

Which centralised tax is being cut to balance out this new local one?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28495631

"English councils propose 'Tesco tax'"

"A group of local councils in England is formally asking the government for new powers to tax large supermarkets."

As far as I can tell the councils just want money, they want to spend it on themselves, their own departments, their own staff, their own wages, their own pensions, their own little empires.

They have lost touch of their purpose and something has to be done about them.

We need massive tax cuts, we need council sizes/powers reduced, we need council tax halved.

Who do we vote for to get this ?

Councils have statutory duties given to them by central government.

A basic district council will have to look after:

Bin collection

Environmental Health (food safety, dog warden, pest control)

Planning

Elections

Benefits

Collection of local taxes

Housing

Then the support functions to look after these services (legal, IT, procurement, accounts)

You get bigger councils who also do social care (the very, very expensive part of local government)

There simply aren't giant departments that can be axed unless you think the services shouldn't be offered at all - but what gets done is decided on by central gov. What they can and have done is trim down a lot of the support functions and outsource (at the price of a massively worse service) functions that can be done more cheaply in the private sector. I'm not saying there isn't still some waste but compared to other areas of gov spending I actually think local councils are good value (certainly compared to central civil service who have pay and terms and conditions local gov could only dream of)

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Which centralised tax is being cut to balance out this new local one?

Thanks you saved me typing that in :lol:

They are just trying to keep their budgets/salaries/pensions.

it's a disgrace. At some point the general population is going to get very ANGRY !!! :wub:

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Is this the standard middle class hippy hankering for lots of tiny shops to save the high Street, despite the fact they all shop at waitrose?

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They are trying to think of all ways possible of getting more money.......free and reduced parking in town is not something they would ever consider to improve town centres, it only ever goes up......and residents are not in the mood to paying increased CT bills at this point in time, what with everything else they are having to pay for with below inflation income from both savings, pensions and many jobs inc the self employed. ;)

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I know we have the usual wasteful council posts we see regularly on here - but in my experience they are often far more efficient than central government. Local government including fire and transport services has probably seen the biggest funding cuts of any sector since 2010.

One interesting fact relates to the provision of social care to the elderly and disabled - possibly the most vulnerable people in society who are out of sight and out of mind (particularly if they have no relatives to fight their case). While the government continues to provide bribes and freebies to younger pensions still able enough to vote they have cut back the services to the very frail and elderly who are probably too far gone to vote.

http://www.communitycare.co.uk/2014/07/02/adult-social-services-budgets-slashed-quarter-four-years/

"Councils in England have had to make cuts of 26% in their social care budgets, or £3.53bn, once inflation and demographic pressures are taken into account since 2009.

The number of people looking for adult care support from their council rose by 14% from 2010 to 2014, but the proportion deemed eligible for council-funded services dropped by 5.8 per cent last year alone and has fallen by 28% since 2008-9."

Not necessarily saying poor little Tesco should pay for social care - but I do find these stats a little shocking. Because we may need someone to dress us, wash us and feed us when we get old too - and there probably will be nothing left by then!

Edited by MARTINX9

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Is this the standard middle class hippy hankering for lots of tiny shops to save the high Street, despite the fact they all shop at waitrose?

With their token trip to the local farmers markets in a gas guzzling four by four to buy a couple of organic cabbages, forsaking a greener alternative at a big supermarket with world beating logistics and economies of scale that make it by far the greenest option.

How dare these f**king idiots even think of introducing a regressive tax on food which will cripple the poor.

Edited by crashmonitor

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And it's not the Tesco tax it is the Food Tax ...Tesco wont stand it the customer will in higher prices. Perhaps the Tories councillors will want to know why their constituents hit by their FOOD TAX don't eat cake.

Edited by crashmonitor

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Our Tesco will become Tesco express In a couple of years time as Tesco shrinks and they`ll be able to build load of houses in what is now their car park. Waitrose are planning to build a store nearby.

What we need is more Aldi`s and Lidl`s....just get in and out.

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Reminds me of this pr1ck getting over existed by Scottish independence:

http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/national/tax-powers-for-english-cities-urged-1-6719146

How come those useless ***** never want to reduce tax?

"Local areas know best how to stimulate their economies. With a wider range of revenue streams at their disposal, they would be able to invest in infrastructure and projects that mattered locally - without having to rely on or wait for handouts from central government.

"Local people would then reap the rewards through increased tax take, which could be reinvested in their areas. In the same vein, if local politicians failed to deliver, they wouldn't be able to hide behind Whitehall and Eric Pickles."

I like the idea that local areas i.e councils know what to do.

Anyone who'se witnesses local councils impose various crack pot schemes and car parking fines would probably have other ideas.

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I know we have the usual wasteful council posts we see regularly on here - but in my experience they are often far more efficient than central government. Local government including fire and transport services has probably seen the biggest funding cuts of any sector since 2010.

That's like saying Mao was nicer than Hitler.

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A good argument for reducing central and local government taxation and supplementing it with a consumption tax with the highest rates on non-essentials that have been imported. Oh wait, that would annoy the corporations who would no doubt sell fewer shiny gadgets. Council services should be privatised and given to small enterprises on a pay-as-you-go basis, creating employment and redistributing money to those who want to work. Councils have far too much power and many people would be willing to pay for weekly or even more frequent collection of waste.

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A good argument for reducing central and local government taxation and supplementing it with a consumption tax with the highest rates on non-essentials that have been imported.

They've done exactly that. There's a consumption tax on non-essentials, and it was recently raised, though perhaps not as much as you'd like.

Big surprise: VAT isn't popular, either.

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A good argument for reducing central and local government taxation and supplementing it with a consumption tax with the highest rates on non-essentials that have been imported. Oh wait, that would annoy the corporations who would no doubt sell fewer shiny gadgets. Council services should be privatised and given to small enterprises on a pay-as-you-go basis, creating employment and redistributing money to those who want to work. Councils have far too much power and many people would be willing to pay for weekly or even more frequent collection of waste.

What VAT, council shop rents, fuel tax on delivering to businesses and business rates all priced into to the things you buy with your already taxed income isn't enough?

We need less tax, much less, not more or different ones.

FFS

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What it would end up meaning is higher local taxes to "invest" in higher wages and bonuses for council management and councillors, more free perks, luxury offices, luxury jollies and outings at home and abroad for the same people - etc. Rich pickings for cronies as well.

So far as local people and citizens are concerned it would mean higher local taxes to pay for more parking meters, more parking wardens, more CCTV, more speed radar, more double yellow lines etc and more rules, regulations and restrictions in general - etc etc etc.

For sure what it wouldn't mean is investment in things like say more sports facilities for people and citizens - let alone more housing.

If local politicians failed to deliver you would get the chance of voting for another identical one but with a different label.

They've proved the general self serving principle over and over again.

Edited by billybong

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