kjw Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Most people who lose their jobs will soon have to wait five weeks before they get any cash help, according to small print in the Universal Credit rules uncovered by the TUC as it launches a new campaign today (Wednesday), Saving Our Safety Net. A YouGov poll reports opposition of almost four to one to the five-week wait. Currently most newly unemployed people have to wait two weeks they get their first benefit payment. But under new Universal Credit rules people will not be eligible for any help for a week and must then wait a further month for their benefits to be paid in arrears. This means that, other than the few who receive emergency help, any new claimants will have to wait at least five weeks for any cash. In a new report Universal Credit: the problem of delay in benefit payments published today (Wednesday), the TUC says that this new and deliberate delay to payments means that worries about money are likely to distract new claimants from looking for work, drive them into the hands of payday loan lenders and increase demand on food banks. [more at link] Yet another UC success story http://www.tuc.org.uk/social-issues/poverty-social-exclusion/welfare-and-benefits/tax-credits/newly-unemployed-and?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 More business for food banks. Maybe it's a disguised way of fighting type-2 diabetes through starvation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyme2 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 More business for the new breed of payday loan lenders - the ones tht are now going to be promoted (and heave near zero percent funding) - the banks! Funny how they can get all of their shit paid for when needs be, gambling habitds and all, even writing bouncing cheques - i.e. new debt that they know will never be repaid due to the circumstances of the borrower - pittiy the poor mug that buys the repackaed debt. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 More business for the new breed of payday loan lenders - the ones tht are now going to be promoted (and heave near zero percent funding) - the banks! Funny how they can get all of their shit paid for when needs be, gambling habitds and all, even writing bouncing cheques - i.e. new debt that they know will never be repaid due to the circumstances of the borrower - pittiy the poor mug that buys the repackaed debt. . Yes, there's always money available, and plenty of it, for the rich and for the corporations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Most people who lose their jobs will soon have to wait five weeks before they get any cash help, according to small print in the Universal Credit rules uncovered by the TUC as it launches a new campaign today (Wednesday), Saving Our Safety Net. A YouGov poll reports opposition of almost four to one to the five-week wait. Currently most newly unemployed people have to wait two weeks they get their first benefit payment. But under new Universal Credit rules people will not be eligible for any help for a week and must then wait a further month for their benefits to be paid in arrears. This means that, other than the few who receive emergency help, any new claimants will have to wait at least five weeks for any cash. In a new report Universal Credit: the problem of delay in benefit payments published today (Wednesday), the TUC says that this new and deliberate delay to payments means that worries about money are likely to distract new claimants from looking for work, drive them into the hands of payday loan lenders and increase demand on food banks. [more at link] Yet another UC success story http://www.tuc.org.uk/social-issues/poverty-social-exclusion/welfare-and-benefits/tax-credits/newly-unemployed-and?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter How about putting some money aside into savings during the good times. 5 week wait for the benefits to arrive; aww.. Sell the house (at a lower price), rent a room instead of an apartment. Don't like it, move to Aus where there's some bit of reality, and a lot more in other countries. Job seekers must apply for 40 jobs, without benefits June 13, 2014 Young job seekers forced to wait six months for unemployment benefits will be required to apply for 40 jobs a month, despite not receiving any payments. Under proposals announced in the budget, job seekers aged under 30 will be ineligible for payments for six months after applying for benefits. But despite not receiving any money, job seekers will be required to meet the activity requirements for unemployment benefits throughout this period. If they fail to do so, their waiting period will be extended by four weeks. Job seekers will be required to attend monthly appointments with an employment service provider, and show evidence, such as a job search diary, that they have looked for 40 jobs that month. http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/job-seekers-must-apply-for-40-jobs-without-benefits-20140613-3a1br.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulfar Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Wow the Australian government really doesn't want to be elected next time, is there a problem looming in Australia that makes being in power unpalatable. I don't agree with our current benefit system requirements, the Australian one sounds like they are deliberately trying to annoy people or drive out immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy soy Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 How about putting some money aside into savings during the good times. 5 week wait for the benefits to arrive; aww.. Sell the house (at a lower price), rent a room instead of an apartment. Don't like it, move to Aus where there's some bit of reality, and a lot more in other countries. Ok Young job seekers is a different kettle of fish. I would be miffed if I had paid years of N.I.C contributions which is basically insurance and the rules were changed retrospectively to a 6 month wait before access to money. I suppose its a move to contribution based welfare rather than non-contributory based welfare, which I am in inclined to be more in favour of. If the playing field is leveled for the younger generations enough that they can survive without the safety net that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olde guto Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 How about putting some money aside into savings during the good times. 5 week wait for the benefits to arrive; aww.. Sell the house (at a lower price), rent a room instead of an apartment. Don't like it, move to Aus where there's some bit of reality, and a lot more in other countries. WTF! Put some money aside, easily done if your salary is well above average (which I'm guessing is your situation). However, if you've got nothing left over once you've paid your rent, bills, travel costs, food etc. that's easier said than done (and probably said by someone who doesn't have a clue what it's like to live off minimum wage work). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 WTF! Put some money aside, easily done if your salary is well above average (which I'm guessing is your situation). However, if you've got nothing left over once you've paid your rent, bills, travel costs, food etc. that's easier said than done (and probably said by someone who doesn't have a clue what it's like to live off minimum wage work). +1 I'm kinda of hoping that the Blue Rentiers p*ss so many people off. that they end up hanging from lamp posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) You get £60 a week on the dole under 25,and that again in HB if you need it (I don't actually know many under 25s dolites not living at home, as the HB obviously falls well short of what a room actually costs). It's hardly a wonderful existence. Any 40hr a week job on minimum wage sees you on a lot more than twice that. Most are clamouring for fulltime work where I am. I get asked daily for it by different nippers (some posh and very well spoken which is a surprise. Most just normal kids). There just isn't anything fulltime. Zero hours, part time, no security or chances of progression at all. The supermarkets used to be a safe bet if you could get work there (unionised to a point at least), but more and more on zero hours/crappy contracts. None of this is the kids fault of course. Edited July 17, 2014 by byron78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I took a job once, was a 5 week month, had to wait 5 weeks to get paid. That was my problem, not the rest of societies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnails Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 my experince of being made redundant is that the people who have worked and saved a bit of money are treated a lost worse in money terms by the dole office than the serial scroungers. I ended up getting standard dole money no house benefit or anything else. As the poster above said there should be more full time jobs for people as the difference between dole and is greater then. I remember 10years ago when i was redundant i went for inter for 16hr job at pc world. (16 * 5 = £80 ) and dole money for me was £70 quid not including transport costs. needless to say i did try hard to get the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eight Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I took a job once, was a 5 week month, had to wait 5 weeks to get paid. That was my problem, not the rest of societies. I took a job earlier this year, was a 5 week month, had to wait 5 weeks to get paid, didn't get paid. That was annoying, I can tell you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Many people are paid in arrears myself included. Four weeks would not be a great problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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