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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2683025/Ban-term-time-family-holidays-hurting-British-tourism.html

New rules banning parents from taking their children out of school during term time is damaging British tourism and costing jobs.

In September, new legislation came into force ending a policy that allowed schools to grant up to 10 days leave for family holidays and introducing fines of up to £1,500 who took their children out of school.

Now tourism bosses and councillors in Cornwall claim the policy is 'hurting' the area and are calling for a government re-think.

Laws of unintended consequences?

Have many on here seen a decline in the traditional seaside resorts in the UK during term time?

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It was on the news this morning that all the schools in Newham and a few others are closed because of the Tour de France. Evidently, there are only certain days when keeping the kids from school is a detriment to their education. <_<

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We're taking our daughter out next week and have the head masters authorisation to do it, but then again it would be a bit hard for him to deny it as he's let both the school secretary and a parent governor take their kids out for 2 weeks each.

It was nearly £600 cheaper to fly next thursday (17th) rather than next saturday (19th)

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It was on the news this morning that all the schools in Newham and a few others are closed because of the Tour de France. Evidently, there are only certain days when keeping the kids from school is a detriment to their education. <_<

I thought the same. Hypocrites.

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It was on the news this morning that all the schools in Newham and a few others are closed because of the Tour de France. Evidently, there are only certain days when keeping the kids from school is a detriment to their education. <_<

There's talk of schools in Newport closing during the NATO conference at the Celtic Manor. Similar point.

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Although I'm from the ROI I went to school in NI and I remember asking how did it work out about schools closing for church holidays. My mother, who was a teacher in NI told me that the schools could in fact close whenever they liked as long as the had the appropriate number of school days in the year.

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school is an utter waste of time.

I home school mine and you can cover huge amounts in much less time with much more focussed lessons. You can also go off on tangents if they show a particular interest and help them pursue it. In terms of holidays we plan holidays as lessons incorporating museums historical sites etc

Schools are indoctrination camps teaching order, listening to authority, doing as your told. They are nothing about "education". They are about teaching children who is in charge and keeping them away so parents can work more and pay more into the system.

I cant believe how much of my youth was wasted in school and how much of a deliberate effort was made by some teachers to stop me following my interests which later evolved into my career.

I would even ask in this day and age with technology do we really need to dress our children in silly outfits and send them of to state school?

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school is an utter waste of time.

I home school mine and you can cover huge amounts in much less time with much more focussed lessons. You can also go off on tangents if they show a particular interest and help them pursue it. In terms of holidays we plan holidays as lessons incorporating museums historical sites etc

Schools are indoctrination camps teaching order, listening to authority, doing as your told. They are nothing about "education". They are about teaching children who is in charge and keeping them away so parents can work more and pay more into the system.

I cant believe how much of my youth was wasted in school and how much of a deliberate effort was made by some teachers to stop me following my interests which later evolved into my career.

I would even ask in this day and age with technology do we really need to dress our children in silly outfits and send them of to state school?

Interesting. What's your opinion of the curriculum? How do you teach a subject you have little knowledge of?

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Reduce the school hoidays...far to long and let parents choose when they would like to take their kids out of school for 10 days ie two weeks pa.....bar certain important run up and exam weeks.....to be decided. ;)

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Well school as it stands is about crushing free thought and creating workers or state dependants. Its about creating people who dont questions. Read up on a woman called charolette iserbyt she has interesting stuff to say on the destruction of the US school system.

Simply learning facts and regurgitating these facts come exam time is a complete waste of time. So long as you cover the fundementals you then let your child dictate areas fo interest and thelp them pursue paths of interest. For example one of mine is 5 and has a real interest in human anatomy and biology. Its not an area I know a great deal aout but have been "learning" with him. You can never know everything but part of the experience is exploring areas of interest together. With the internet its never really been easier plus how much human anatomy or biology could he really pursue in a school environment? Maybe he will be a doctor or similiar? I dunno but I will give him everything he needs to explore his questions.

Here is an example, one one of our "holidays" we recently went to an aquarium. As we examined the various tanks my 5 year old came up with the question " If jellyfish have no brain or nervous system how do they know where they are going?" We then went and explored the answer together asking staff and doing a bit of internet when we get home. We both learn together, this is a great experience.

I was introduced by home schooling by my missus who also used to be a teacher and has many things to say about the education system as you can imagine. Just google famous people home schooled for a real eye opener.

I find this a much better alternative than me and the wife killing ourselves with work to buy a house in a good school area and never seeing our kids.

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School holidays during term time, thinking back to my childhood in the 80's they were pretty much unknown. If you couldn't afford a holiday abroad you just stayed somewhere in the UK, if you couldn't afford a whole week you had maybe a weekend away and some day trips. People went camping (none of this glamping BS) or caravanning and they survived.

How many of those who can't afford holidays are actually on low incomes and how many the people who are up to their eyeballs in debt with a massive mortgage on an overpriced property - i.e. those who helped create the property bubble? If any are on benefits then hard luck, if you want a holiday go out and get job :angry:

Just had a quick look on the Thomas Cook website a holiday in Turkey for a family of 4, 5 nights, in the middle of August can be had from about £900. That's booking now - only 4 weeks away, I'm sure far better deals were available earlier in the year.

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I think education will be one of the most resistant areas to the internet game changer along with law, accountancy and taxation but, it will succumb eventually.

Certainly, as far as the curriculum is concerned, it seems very confused about exactly what it is attempting to deliver. It's almost like a deranged doomsday prepper anticipating a post-apocalyptic world with no calculators or spell-checkers.

It's becoming increasingly hard to deny that a vast chunk of western societies are devoted to largely pointless busy work. I think there was, once upon a time, a strong argument that it provided a cohesive society as a building block for greater things but it's getting weaker all the time. The absence of paper to shuffle is unsettling even the most ardent and self-delusional believer in the system's sense purpose.

My main concern with home-ed has always been you end up with kids with poor social skills that struggle to mix but, generally I seem to find more and more that those kids I do come across, that have been outside the main education system, seem the most well adjusted.

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Nope. None of the above.

UK holidays are just too expensive, the service too crap and the sun too unreliable. Thats it.

The cost of UK real estate makes any business involving property too expensive.

Like the previous poster, I cannot remember anyone being taken out of school for a cheap holiday in the 80s. In fact, few popel went away abroad then - it was the North.

Maybe taking you kids out of school for holiday is one ofthese new fangled things people have started to do, like those god awful school proms.

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I was taken out of school, during term time, to go fruit picking which my parents disingenuously marketed as some kind of holiday.

In later years I also took myself out of school in the afternoons to a hastily arranged holiday in a local amusement arcade.

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I do think it is only fair that teachers be fined or sued for not turning up to work during term time all those times a school closes in the winter (whenever the temperature drops below zero) for no rational reason, or when they close (apparently) to watch the Tour de France. That'll learn 'em.

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Home schooling is all very well for some, but for many school is a sanctuary from what's going on at home. Both me and my partner grew up in violent and unhappy households, school offered security, stability and the chance to build some healthier relationships with adults - certainly a few better role models than our parents offered.

Inspiration for what I studied and eventually took up as a career came from a fantastic teacher not from parents.

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Three hotels I frequent haven't put up the fees for ten years, despite the obvious increasing costs most notably the minimum wage and fuel costs. Then you have the astronomical bill of continued refurbs and repairs to the exterior fabric. The profit and loss accounts of many hotels would make you weep...and they have to compete with the Escape to the Country amateurs who don't have to make a profit courtesy of public sector pensions etc. (well of course these property porn programmes make out you can, but actually you can't other than make capital gains on the business you create)

It's a bit like all rural industry.....farming is zero profit but that gets a subsidy.

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It's a bit like all rural industry.....farming is zero profit but that gets a subsidy.

Farming is rather essential though since we all need to eat, although I suppose you could argue that ultimately the subsidy is going to the supermarkets by letting them buy cheap.

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