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Ring The Alarm - Bbc: Councils Demand Half A Million New Home...

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...by the end of the DECADE! Only an extra ~100,000 a year then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28192586

"In the last 14 years, the LGA said that house prices have risen by 155%, while average wages have only risen by 41%."

"The current housing crisis is nothing short of a national scandal which is going to get worse without radical action," said Councillor David Sparks, the incoming chairman of the LGA.

Amongst the measures it wants to see are:

  • Incentives for private developers to speed up building on sites that already have planning permission
  • New local Land Trusts which would allocate publicly-owned land for house-building
  • A removal of the borrowing cap, which limits the amount councils can borrow to build new homes

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Great... but....

Is there a 'danger' that current, over-inflated house prices start to fall, which takes the heat of all this rush to build new houses?

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...by the end of the DECADE! Only an extra ~100,000 a year then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28192586

"In the last 14 years, the LGA said that house prices have risen by 155%, while average wages have only risen by 41%."

"The current housing crisis is nothing short of a national scandal which is going to get worse without radical action," said Councillor David Sparks, the incoming chairman of the LGA.

Amongst the measures it wants to see are:

  • Incentives for private developers to speed up building on sites that already have planning permission
  • New local Land Trusts which would allocate publicly-owned land for house-building
  • A removal of the borrowing cap, which limits the amount councils can borrow to build new homes

Oh, i've got one...how about charging council tax from the minute planning approval is given?

After all, thats the point the land's value is sent into the stratosphere.

Of course, tories being the party of the landowner, I suspect it'll be more of "we'll give you £10 grand if you dont landbank, paid for by scrapping jobseekers for under 30s"

Such benevolent creatures, those tories.

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100 000 a year. No-one else at all bothered about being in the situation where we need to build a new city every year? It highlights to me not the lack of building but the insanity of continuing a system where we've got that constant need to keep expanding. For heaven's sake get a move on with building what we need to properly house the people we've got but please, please stop that number going up!

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Great... but....

Is there a 'danger' that current, over-inflated house prices start to fall, which takes the heat of all this rush to build new houses?

Councils have a huge waiting list for social housing, they need these and another few million built ASAP otherwise the only people who will qualify are going to be one legged, single mother Romanians with 5 kids and a tic which prevents her from working.

Edited by hans kammler

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Councils have a huge waiting list for social housing, they need these and another few million built ASAP otherwise the only people who will qualify are going to be one legged, single mother Romanians with 5 kids and a tic which prevents her from working.

And as the criteria is changed, people change their circumstances to meet the criteria.

Long Romanian classes.

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100 000 a year. No-one else at all bothered about being in the situation where we need to build a new city every year? It highlights to me not the lack of building but the insanity of continuing a system where we've got that constant need to keep expanding. For heaven's sake get a move on with building what we need to properly house the people we've got but please, please stop that number going up!

If we had built enough houses in the last 20 years, we wouldn't need to panic build now. And IMHO if the UK doesn't keep expanding, we really will turn into Japan - with a dead economy and an army of retirees to feed water and change, and nobody to do it, let alone pay for it...

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Local authorities across England and Wales are calling for plans to build half a million new homes before the end of the decade.

They say the current shortage of affordable housing is a "national scandal" and an "emerging nightmare".

The Local Government Association (LGA) - which represents 370 councils in England and Wales - is calling for a series of measures to help.

Last year just 110,000 homes were built in England, half the number required

Can't they even do basic arithmetic

500,000 extra homes before 2020 is less than 100,000 new homes per year which is a reduction on the current rate of building.

So they're effectively calling for a reduction and trying to pretend it's an increase.

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And IMHO if the UK doesn't keep expanding, we really will turn into Japan - with a dead economy and an army of retirees to feed water and change, and nobody to do it, let alone pay for it...

Well when you look at the stats that actually affect normal peoples living standards rather than maco economic voodoo numbers i.e. such as wages, employment levels, quality of healthcare and transport and of course housing costs, Japan actually stacks up pretty well. An economy based on expansion is doomed to fail at some point.

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100 000 a year. No-one else at all bothered about being in the situation where we need to build a new city every year? It highlights to me not the lack of building but the insanity of continuing a system where we've got that constant need to keep expanding. For heaven's sake get a move on with building what we need to properly house the people we've got but please, please stop that number going up!

How? Enforced sterilisation and euthanasia?

Whether you like it or not the population is growing even when you are excluding migration.

Births 2012 - 812,970

Deaths 2012 - 569,024

Population growth - 243,946

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How? Enforced sterilisation and euthanasia?

Whether you like it or not the population is growing even when you are excluding migration.

Births 2012 - 812,970

Deaths 2012 - 569,024

Population growth - 243,946

Well how is, of course, a problem. Not having a good solution doesn't meant that the problem doesn't exist, it means that we need to try very, very hard to think up a solution. We'll have to before nature eventually forces its solution on us, and ideally a long time before that because all we'll get up to that point is an ever-decreasing quality of life. Stopping immigration would be a good start. Not having any financial incentives for anyone to have kids would help too.

All too often people seem to act in denial of a problem if they don't know how to solve it, or at least those in charge do.

Edited by Riedquat

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