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Living Wage 'should Go To One Million More Workers'

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27981975

The UK government should make it a goal to cut the number of low paid workers by one million by 2020, says the Living Wage Commission.

Its chairman, Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, has recommended that the government should pay its own workers a "living wage".

The commission is an independent body bringing together business, trade unions and civil society.

It says that "the majority of people in poverty in the UK are working".

'Beacon of hope'

The commission's definition of a living wage is "an hourly rate of income calculated according to a basic cost of living in the UK and defined as the minimum amount of money needed to enjoy a basic, but socially acceptable standard of living".

In 2014 the UK living wage rate stands at £7.65 an hour, and the London living wage is set at a higher rate of £8.80 per hour, to take account of the higher cost of living in the capital.

I'm surprised they don't argue that living costs in the capital are high because of property prices.

However the living wage will constantly creep up and what will this mean for grade differentiation? Why would you do a job with more responsibility if there is little or no gain?

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One of those ideas which sounds nice but makes no sense. Why not set at £10/hour, £50/hour?

Unfortunately, many 'employers' are not actually living a greatly different lifestyle to employees or making so much more that they can 'afford' to pay this. Obviously big corporations and govt departments could pay more but why should say, a cleaner be better paid because they happen to working for them rather than a small firm?

A basic unconditional income is a far more sensible solution to the 'cost of living crisis' .

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I read beacon as bacon!

Bacon of Hope sounds better IMO, a catchphrase perhaps the liberals could start to use.

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The socialist ideal of a just paying for people to turn up will always fail. With no differentiation human beings simply game the system; you will find prices for goods will go up to pay for the living wage, this in turn will lead to reduced demand which will force companies to sack people. No one will want to lose out on profit.

We have created this "wonderful" capitalist system which requires constant consumption and creation of debt, now we must lie in our own bed. The only fundamental way of changing this system would be to replace the petro-dollar economy with something which Britain happens to invent and own the IP of (nuclear fusion?). Overnight, our requirements for imports and exports would change and the world would simply pay the british people to exist i.e pay them a wage to turn up - much like the saudis and the entire middle east employment sector.

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I read beacon as bacon!

Bacon of Hope sounds better IMO, a catchphrase perhaps the liberals could start to use.

Ed Milliband was on to that weeks ago.

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The socialist ideal of a just paying for people to turn up will always fail. With no differentiation human beings simply game the system; you will find prices for goods will go up to pay for the living wage, this in turn will lead to reduced demand which will force companies to sack people. No one will want to lose out on profit.

We have created this "wonderful" capitalist system which requires constant consumption and creation of debt, now we must lie in our own bed. The only fundamental way of changing this system would be to replace the petro-dollar economy with something which Britain happens to invent and own the IP of (nuclear fusion?). Overnight, our requirements for imports and exports would change and the world would simply pay the british people to exist i.e pay them a wage to turn up - much like the saudis and the entire middle east employment sector.

With differentiation human beings game the system, no matter what the system it will be gamed.

To get on you have to take credit for everything and anything even if you didn't do it, the ideal is to move on before you are found out and talk up your own self worth. The idea that it's only the socialist system where this happens is ludicrous.

As for nuclear fusion we can't even build our own new reactors we've got to contract in foreign countries!

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In a slave economy none of the slaves get paid to work they just get benefits. Housing benefits and food benefits. The slave masters charter is every one to there needs whats left over is mine.

A fair days pay for a fair days work is what we should be aiming for. Benefits just maximizes the profits for the 1%

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I'm surprised they don't argue that living costs in the capital are high because of property prices.

.....anyone who lives in an unencumbered home in our capital city is living in the cheapest part of the united kingdom.......petrol, council tax, water to name just a few...not to mention a place where there is more spent on infrastructure and services than any other place.....so l would say London for those who do not have debt is a place where you can earn the most and pay the least with the best choice available.

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Living wage goes up, rent goes up.

Unemployment goes up?

Inflation goes up?

Cheaper homes and cheaper rents is the answer......the wages we have now would then be a living wage, plenty to live on.

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As things stand, there is practically no point in raising min. wage to living wage because at least 70% of the gain will drain down the cracks as increased tax/NI and lost tax credits.

Citizen's income a.s.a.p.

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