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The Swiss, exasperated with congestion and high housing costs recently voted on restrictions on all foreigners including EU nationals. The swiss government is trying to get its head around this decision which may mean pulling out of all agreements with the EU. The EU, for its part, has promised the Swiss economic Armageddon.

The government will propose a law privileging the employment of Swiss nationals for jobs and placing restrictions at cantonal level on the number of work permits given to frontier workers. There will also be restrictions to residency and to short term visitor permits. Currently there are no restrictions on EU nationals working in Switzerland.

The Swiss government has asked the EU to modify the current agreements. The commissions has said it is not up for negotiation. A sign of things to come for any future UK government.

http://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/alpes/2014/06/20/immigration-vers-un-quota-de-frontaliers-et-la-preference-nationale-en-suisse-503033.html

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The Swiss, exasperated with congestion and high housing costs recently voted on restrictions on all foreigners including EU nationals. The swiss government is trying to get its head around this decision which may mean pulling out of all agreements with the EU. The EU, for its part, has promised the Swiss economic Armageddon.

The government will propose a law privileging the employment of Swiss nationals for jobs and placing restrictions at cantonal level on the number of work permits given to frontier workers. There will also be restrictions to residency and to short term visitor permits. Currently there are no restrictions on EU nationals working in Switzerland.

The Swiss government has asked the EU to modify the current agreements. The commissions has said it is not up for negotiation. A sign of things to come for any future UK government.

http://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/alpes/2014/06/20/immigration-vers-un-quota-de-frontaliers-et-la-preference-nationale-en-suisse-503033.html

what i find interesting is that it is another example of the EU saying that a democratic decision, wanted by a population, must not be listened to and must be ignored.

When other countries do that they call them dictatorships and sometimes bomb them.

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Democracy is dead surely in the EU (or linked as the Swiss are) - you can vote how you want but it doesn't matter as the EU can just override what you decide.

All this talk by Cameron of renegotiation is a total con - it won't happen as its not in the interests of the vast majority of the other 27 member states to do so. Even if our Angie wanted to change things her SPD left wing coalition partners would block it.

Personally if I was Swiss - I would just tell Brussels to F OFF. When the wealthy Swiss stop buying EU goods the business community and market forces will force a change of view.

The future is not Europe (thats the dying bankrupt past) - time we got out too!

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The Swiss, exasperated with congestion and high housing costs recently voted on restrictions on all foreigners including EU nationals. The swiss government is trying to get its head around this decision which may mean pulling out of all agreements with the EU. The EU, for its part, has promised the Swiss economic Armageddon.

The government will propose a law privileging the employment of Swiss nationals for jobs and placing restrictions at cantonal level on the number of work permits given to frontier workers. There will also be restrictions to residency and to short term visitor permits. Currently there are no restrictions on EU nationals working in Switzerland.

The Swiss government has asked the EU to modify the current agreements. The commissions has said it is not up for negotiation. A sign of things to come for any future UK government.

http://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/alpes/2014/06/20/immigration-vers-un-quota-de-frontaliers-et-la-preference-nationale-en-suisse-503033.html

The thing is switzerland is a very small county, and it has already mightily pissed the rest of mainland europe off, with its endemic support by law for tax evasion. The UK is a whole other story, our finance industry has certainly pissed off much of mainland europe, but we are simply too big for them to say do it our way or else. Switzerland has a population of 8 million ours is 63 million.

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democracy, two wolves and a sheep voting whats for dinner.

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When the wealthy Swiss stop buying EU goods.....

Jesus will rise from the dead, hell will freeze over and pigs will fly. All at the same time.

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what i find interesting is that it is another example of the EU saying that a democratic decision, wanted by a population, must not be listened to and must be ignored.

When other countries do that they call them dictatorships and sometimes bomb them.

Who has the EU bombed?

The EU is attempting to bend the Swiss to their will. If the Swiss are strong enough in their convictions, they will face down the EU. However, if the Swiss politicians are shills in cheap suits (like everywhere else), they'll fold in the face of the consequences of the choice made by the Swiss electors.

It's not bullying. You makes your choices and live with the consequences.

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Who has the EU bombed?

The EU is attempting to bend the Swiss to their will. If the Swiss are strong enough in their convictions, they will face down the EU. However, if the Swiss politicians are shills in cheap suits (like everywhere else), they'll fold in the face of the consequences of the choice made by the Swiss electors.

It's not bullying. You makes your choices and live with the consequences.

Coercion, whether through bombs or less explosive means, remains coercion.

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A few companies might find it difficult to stay maybe? Just considering the amount of people I know who commute into CH.

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With the lapsing of the bilateral accord on social security resulting in an extra 8% tax for frontaliers from this year this could ***** the Geneva area housing bubble.

(the ***** is the word pr1ck btw)

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Coercion, whether through bombs or less explosive means, remains coercion.

I dont think that anyone has disagreed that the EU is a fascist empire, rather they have the right to be a fascist empire, as any empire does. We have the right to withdraw our labour and starve their life source.

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Implementation will obviously have to be delayed, until the people vote again and get it right this time.

That does indeed seem like the likely outcome. The Swiss government will propose some new laws then put them to a referendum. And so-on until they get the result they want.

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I dont think that anyone has disagreed that the EU is a fascist empire

The irony being that it was a previous attempt to establish just such an empire that the creation of the EU was in part a response to and supposed to prevent

Of course the EU cannot be compared to the Nazis - but it's not for lack of effort on their part- I sense they genuinely believe that the democratic process is a mere speed bump on the path to their vision of a greater Europe. After all these are the same people who ousted elected presidents in Greece and Italy and replaced them with ex Goldman Sachs apparatchiks- and who made the people of Ireland keep voting until they voted the 'right' way.

The question of leaving the EU is essentially academic- it has no future anyway because the people of Europe will not hand over their national sovereignty to a motley collection of insiders and placemen.

The test for the EU came when the crisis hit Greece- they had a choice then, to either stand with the people or stand with the Banks- they chose the banks and in doing so exposed themselves for the Elite institution they in fact are- more concerned with the preservation of their own power than the well being of the people they are supposed to represent.

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Swiss government to legislate quotas.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/swiss-plan-immigration-quotas-denounced-eu-172351428.html#MAUdary

The quotas, to be set annually, would also apply to the thousands of commuters who work in Switzerland but live across the border in countries like France, Italy, Germany or Austria.

"We would jeopardize direct democracy if our citizens could not rely on us to take their vote seriously," Switzerland's Justice Minister Simonetta Sommaruga told a news conference.

Bye Switzerland, was nice knowing you.

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The Swiss have another initiative that they will be voting on soon called "Ecopop", which basically says the population of the country can only expand by something like 0.20% per year through immigration.

The Ecopop initiative was put forward by environmentalist, what I like about Swiss politics is you don't have the left and right in the same way as in other countries (although the media in the UK don't really get this,they love to paint anything that questions immigration as "Right Wing").

For example trade unionists may be anti EU, environmentalists may but forward immigration limiting policies, and conservatives may support heavy tax payer investment in Swiss railways.

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democracy, two wolves and a sheep voting whats for dinner.

More like one wolf, two sheep and the ballot paper says braised or roasted.

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