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Shop that beat Hitler but lost to the parking Nazis: East End printing shop is forced to close after council installed spy camera outside.


W.F. Arber & Co in Roman Road, Bow, closed its doors after 117 years


Printed for suffragettes and survived enemy bombing in two world wars


But Tower Hamlets erected spy camera on a pole outside


Fines those stopping outside - including a minister given £65 ticket


Owners could also no longer pay high business rates demanded by council




i.e. Persecution & Extortion by local govt.


Absolutely scandalous.

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A business that is no longer profitable is going to the wall (rather than reduce costs/move/modernise/diversify etc...)

Nothing to see here, move along.

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No -- The issue here is the EXTORTIONATE local business rates - and the PERSECUTION of ordinary people. Those parking cameras are the embodiment of PERSECUTION & EXTORTION.

Local Govt taxes are a disgrace. Pure extortion. They SUCK YOU DRY.

A THIRD OF YOUR COUNCIL TAX GOES TOWARDS THE COUNCIL PENSIONS.
And could you afford a pension like that for yourself? No.
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It must have been the last straw as there must be endless opportunities for printers these days printing up the endless tons of paper spam advertising that each and every day is posted through every letter box in the land and then ends up at the tip.

Extra parking restrictions are being introduced everywhere to help fund council pensions, wages and plush offices etc.

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You have a printing company with a shop front, that is reliant on passing trade in a high street location, with an owner at 83. The problem is not going to just be the rates....

I am not saying that the council isn't a factor in killing off the high street... but it certainly isn't the sole reason for this business closing. Most of the other high street shops are just moving out of town to the business parks and to be honest, this is where I would expect to see a printing company anyway.

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I used to live near Roman Road, and buy stationery from Arbers... Gary is such a star, with such amazing tales to tell. Really sad to see the back of this old shop! I can't believe the way Tower Hamlets are acting .. worst Council in the country?

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Creativity has to support too much uncreativity, that is the large problem, or partly in this case.

The other is that the overhyped TV guru Mary Portas visited Roman Road; the small business angel of death.

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About a month ago i paid to park in worcester till 4.40.

i came back to my car at 4.30 and found two traffic wardens hanging around.

I could have said something but i did not really think it was good idea as i work near by and would have to park there again sometimes. Usually i park on outskirts and walk in and not pay to park as it would not make job finanical viable if i had to pay every day.

As the chap said it drives people away . even though i work in worcester i rarely going in center and buy anything it just to much hastle. Dont the council know people can have stuff delivered of the internet now and they cant charge if all the shop have gone.

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It must have been the last straw as there must be endless opportunities for printers these days printing up the endless tons of paper spam advertising that each and every day is posted through every letter box in the land and then ends up at the tip.

Extra parking restrictions are being introduced everywhere to help fund council pensions, wages and plush offices etc.

it is not only the shop owners feeling ripped off....it is also sometimes their customers.......to go shopping and pay a high premium to spend more money and all the extra costs it entails, then you wonder why people bother exiting the front door when they don't have to. ;)

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Where I live the two big main car parks have both started charging for parking. But in this case it's not the council's fault, both the car parks and the small parade of shops are owned by the same commercial BTL firm and the charges are driving away customers.

The council can do nothing about it, except let the trees grow a bit more and hope they obscure the empty units...

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parking tickets because your car is obstructing roads/driveways/causing a nuisance = just about fair enough

parking tickets because your car has spent 10 minutes too long in your allotted 3 metre x 1.5 metre space which you are forced to 'rent' from councils, who seem to have claimed the space as their own, somehow, and which generates profits for them which they pay themselves very well with, is just ******ing theft

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The old romantic days of when people used to nip to the local shop, have a chat about the weather and the football are long gone. This is now replaced by the search for yield in a low interest rate environment.

In,Hello, Pay money, Goodbye, Get Out. Profit is the model of today. And it is quicker by internet.

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Have a look at the road, it's long, narrow and has London buses going along it in both directions.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.531972,-0.034682,3a,75y,265.76h,84.44t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjrSJqBtSljqtkmB5KEjbZg!2e0

It's a completely inappropriate place for people to leave their cars on the street while they go into the shops. The traffic would grind to a halt.

The council are right.

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The old romantic days of when people used to nip to the local shop, have a chat about the weather and the football are long gone. This is now replaced by the search for yield in a low interest rate environment.

In these halcyon days of yore people walked to the shops.

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You have a printing company with a shop front, that is reliant on passing trade in a high street location, with an owner at 83. The problem is not going to just be the rates....

I am not saying that the council isn't a factor in killing off the high street... but it certainly isn't the sole reason for this business closing. Most of the other high street shops are just moving out of town to the business parks and to be honest, this is where I would expect to see a printing company anyway.

That's about it, the facts are the owner is 82 with no children to pass the business to.

What do some people want him to do? Work until he drops dead in the shop or perhaps he should close the business and hopefully enjoy a few years retirement?

The article was really no more than an excuse for people to have a rant and rave, pure DM clickbait.

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Truly sad. Local councils are legally extorting money from motorcar owners and it's only getting worse. I remember a time in the not so distant past when you could drop off/pick up somebody from Bath railway station. Now you're forced to park in an underground car park across the road and if you're unlucky enough to miss it the first time around, drive around the one way system again. The mentality is driven by a pathological hatred of car owners and probably a great deal of jealousy.

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Have a look at the road, it's long, narrow and has London buses going along it in both directions.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.531972,-0.034682,3a,75y,265.76h,84.44t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjrSJqBtSljqtkmB5KEjbZg!2e0

It's a completely inappropriate place for people to leave their cars on the street while they go into the shops. The traffic would grind to a halt.

The council are right.

I refuse to click on the Mail link, but this streetview shows that there is a loading bay provided pretty much outside Arber's shop. I'm not sure what the parking related complaint is here.

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Truly sad. Local councils are legally extorting money from motorcar owners and it's only getting worse. I remember a time in the not so distant past when you could drop off/pick up somebody from Bath railway station. Now you're forced to park in an underground car park across the road and if you're unlucky enough to miss it the first time around, drive around the one way system again. The mentality is driven by a pathological hatred of car owners and probably a great deal of jealousy.

Its Policy... I complained about the sealing off of the drop off zone at Stanstead Airport, and the charging of £2 now to do so. The reply showed the new owners were happy to discourage car travel to the airport in line with the Government Policy to encourage public transport.

To do so they have spent £0000s on auto ticketing, number plate readers, mobile elevated street camera vehicles and tons of staff, when all they actually had to do was leave the drop off zone alone..no cameras needed, maybe 1 warden to stop long term p takers and thats it.

Parking is actually a public sector job creation scheme.

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I refuse to click on the Mail link, but this streetview shows that there is a loading bay provided pretty much outside Arber's shop. I'm not sure what the parking related complaint is here.

If you had read the article, the enforcement camera takes a photo every 5 minutes and will issue a fine if you are not actually loading/unloading at that very instant.

In the google photo there is a notice in the window: "This improvement project funded by London borough of Tower Hamlets"

what could that be about?

Also theres a small sign next to the loading bay that states : no loading 8am - 7pm

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On that goog

Have a look at the road, it's long, narrow and has London buses going along it in both directions.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.531972,-0.034682,3a,75y,265.76h,84.44t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjrSJqBtSljqtkmB5KEjbZg!2e0

It's a completely inappropriate place for people to leave their cars on the street while they go into the shops. The traffic would grind to a halt.

The council are right.

I had a look at that google maps link and opposite is aquafeet.co.uk shop which is TO LET and I tried going to that link to see what it is about.

In google history images, it is actually a shop where you go in and have fish nibble your feet.

The business made it to the local paper http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/features/fishy_business_in_bow_as_tiny_garrarufa_doctor_fish_nibble_your_feet_1_1013758

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In,Hello, Pay money, Goodbye, Get Out. Profit is the model of today. And it is quicker by internet.

Not just that, but because, when you just want to nip into town and buy something that costs a fiver, you'll have to pay two quid for parking. If you don't need it right away, you then order it from Amazon and pay less than high-street prices anyway.

Councils have been doing their best to drive people away from the high streets for the best part of twenty years. This is why they're now mostly filled with coffee shops, charity shops and bookies.

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