dinker Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Hopefully we`ll see it posting on HPC soon: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/computer-becomes-first-to-pass-turing-test-in-artificial-intelligence-milestone-but-academics-warn-of-dangerous-future-9508370.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 A programme that convinced humans that it was a 13-year-old boy has become the first computer ever to pass the Turing Test. The legal questions that that raises are fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maffo in oxford Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Hopefully we`ll see it posting on HPC soon: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/computer-becomes-first-to-pass-turing-test-in-artificial-intelligence-milestone-but-academics-warn-of-dangerous-future-9508370.html I already am posting, and have been for some time now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I think it's cheating a bit by making the computer play a non-native speaker as it's easier to explain away any glitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 At the point someone builds an AI that can convince the majority of academic staff in the computer science and linguistic departments of a university in the world top 100, then I'll start to get worried. 33% of the general public, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Hopefully we`ll see it posting on HPC soon: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/computer-becomes-first-to-pass-turing-test-in-artificial-intelligence-milestone-but-academics-warn-of-dangerous-future-9508370.html I know people who could spend hours chatting to Eliza without realizing it was a few hundred lines of code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 33% doesn't cut it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Does someone fancy checking his opinions on house prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I know people who could spend hours chatting to Eliza without realizing it was a few hundred lines of code. And how does that make you feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 And how does that make you feel? We were discussing you, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horridbloke Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 A programme that convinced humans that it was a 13-year-old boy has become the first computer ever to pass the Turing Test. That's a bit of a cheat considering the average 13-year-old couldn't pass the Turing Test. 10 print "ur gay lol" 20 goto 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justthisbloke Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 We were discussing you, not me. Please go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Please go on. I'm enjoying this conversation. And you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justthisbloke Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I'm enjoying this conversation. And you? Please go on. And...I think we've found a loop already! http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza-cgi-bin/eliza_script for those who've not seen it before (bloody youngsters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronyx Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I know people who could spend hours chatting to Eliza without realizing it was a few hundred lines of code. And how does that make you feel? We were discussing you, not me. Please go on. I'm enjoying this conversation. And you? Please go on. And...I think we've found a loop already! http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza-cgi-bin/eliza_script for those who've not seen it before (bloody youngsters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy666 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 At the point someone builds an AI that can convince the majority of academic staff in the computer science and linguistic departments of a university in the world top 100, then I'll start to get worried. 33% of the general public, not so much. Look at Chess below. I remember the analysis when a computer scored the first win against a top human, there were suggestions that it was lucky, that it was fixed, etc.. 10 years later and computers are unambiguously better at chess than people, period. The interesting thing is that AIs based on trained, deep neural networks will still have the property we see in wetware - it will generate responses, but you won't be able to tell how, you take it to bits and all you have are locally-communicating dumb neurons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 did Turing pass the Turing test? Joanna Lumley did with her famous impersonation by a computer "youve got male"...I truly beleived somehow she was personally telling everyone that they had got male....so relevent to me since my sex change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy666 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Nice chart. But where are trading and investment systems on that chart? Or perhaps pricing algos that change the price according to who, when the buyer is looking at the site. etc etc I can feel the debits in my pocket throbbing as they grow and subside according to the machines. You mean trading and investment systems using extremely powerful hardware, and Machine Learning algorithms with access to the entire internet for information, including things like facebook and twitter feeds. Systems that are competing with one another, making financial decisions independently, learning rapidly and acting in ways that were never designed..? Don't worry, they almost certainly have an off switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy666 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 If you don't post again I'll understand the machines have learned to pinpoint potential threats. Probably best not to say o-f-f-s-w-i-t-cg ever again. (error deliberate) No point with deliberate errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Please go on. And...I think we've found a loop already! http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza-cgi-bin/eliza_script for those who've not seen it before (bloody youngsters). Error: Circular reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDavola Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Very tempted to write my own dating site bot for amusement; put a really good looking girl's photo in the profile and I the cumulative man hours that would be wasted from poor chumps trying to bang her would be astronomical. Ironically the computer would probably be more literate than a fairly hefty percentage of dating site participants! It would be interesting to see just how stupid you could make the bot before the average bloke would realize something was up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Error: Circular reference. All programs are circular...or they would just end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustYield Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I forcast all programs will end. EDIT: I also forecast that whilst one day, I may have the pleasure of being right....you shall never have that pleasure. This might be the opportune time for somebody to explain what exactly is "the halting problem"? I've never really got to grips with it or what it implies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I forcast all programs will end. EDIT: I also forecast that whilst one day, I may have the pleasure of being right....you shall never have that pleasure. I know, its hard being right all the time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Look at Chess below. I remember the analysis when a computer scored the first win against a top human, there were suggestions that it was lucky, that it was fixed, etc.. 10 years later and computers are unambiguously better at chess than people, period. The interesting thing is that AIs based on trained, deep neural networks will still have the property we see in wetware - it will generate responses, but you won't be able to tell how, you take it to bits and all you have are locally-communicating dumb neurons. Chess really is a different category of problem and always has been. It's quite possible that a true AI without some special chess-playing sub-system would be no better at it than humans. I am a proponent of strong AI, I just don't expect it to happen particularly soon. I also think you're likely right that even the people who build systems which do, finally, pass the kind of Turing test I described will not quite understand how it all works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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