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A few choice conversations, or rather exchanged phrases

'I favour a small government that doesn't interfere' - 'in that case you sound like me and i vote Labour' (What!)

'It's depressing that we are bearing the cost of incompetent govt leading to a massive banking crisis' - 'exactly, vote Labour as they will look after you and me, not the tory bankers'

'I think the state should stay off our backs, I don't think they help the poor in the long run, the poor should be helped to help themselves' - 'I vote labour because this is what they do'

admittedly living in the north you get blanket Labour supporting tendencies, but the denial of the nature of labours actual actions over 20 years is deafening

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Madness. But then the coalition has clearly demonstrated the others are no damn better so anyone expecting to get these things (all good points btw) by voting LibLabCon is deranged to some extent or the other. People like to hang on to their tribal political allegiances though :wacko:

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This is a winning strategy. Most people are politically ambivalent (and gullible), so approaching an election as if you were a contestant on the x-factor is the best way to win. In fact, i think its only a matter of time before labour actually starts recruiting semi-celebrities like say, Joey Essex, to stand in non-labour areas, like Essex...and they'll win.

In a practical sense, I dont really care. The alternative is the tories. If we're going to have an exponentially increasing money supply, id rather it injected via the NHS and schools rather than help to buy and other bank and housing developer giveaways.

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definitely agree that tribalism has a lot to do with it - which many (most?) tory voters are probably equally guilty of

I believe that there are 2 key historical motivators for the deep labour loyalty in the north

(1) the Atlee govt and

(2) the Thatcher govt - I believe that her reforms were necessary - however the north DID suffer disporportionately as it was less well suited to a post-industrial economy, so, without applying moral values to it, peoples' lives were disrupted VERY BADLY, and they vote Labour as a result out of fear

as for whatserface who Brown called a bigot - in her case it's like the mafia - she gets her income off the state (worked for the council and has an associated pension), I suspect strongly so do her children and grandchildren

she HAS to vote labour, she has no choice, they have her by the balls

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Not sure the point of this Tory troll topic.

Most party supporters are conflicted. For example many Tories will believe in 'free market capitalism' yet will be screaming for intervention when market forces impoverish them.

I've never known a businessman refuse State cash either.

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What still amazes me is that woman who was called a bigot but will still vote Labour. What would make her change her mind? Ed Milliband murdering her family?

He was right in calling her a name, just brainless Labour voting idiot would have been the correct term for her.

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There is only one difference between the main 4 parties and the EU is the only that distinguishes 1 from the other 3.

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There is only one difference between the main 4 parties and the EU is the only that distinguishes 1 from the other 3.

Ive not voted but the fear the main 3 have of UKIP tells me theyre not the same and they may actually do a little for the plebs.

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A few choice conversations, or rather exchanged phrases

'I favour a small government that doesn't interfere' - 'in that case you sound like me and i vote Labour' (What!)

'It's depressing that we are bearing the cost of incompetent govt leading to a massive banking crisis' - 'exactly, vote Labour as they will look after you and me, not the tory bankers'

'I think the state should stay off our backs, I don't think they help the poor in the long run, the poor should be helped to help themselves' - 'I vote labour because this is what they do'

admittedly living in the north you get blanket Labour supporting tendencies, but the denial of the nature of labours actual actions over 20 years is deafening

Indeed 20 years of keeping Murdoch happy was only going to end one way just as it did for the original Murdoch fan club.

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Not sure the point of this Tory troll topic.

Most party supporters are conflicted. For example many Tories will believe in 'free market capitalism' yet will be screaming for intervention when market forces impoverish them.

I've never known a businessman refuse State cash either.

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What still amazes me is that woman who was called a bigot but will still vote Labour. What would make her change her mind? Ed Milliband murdering her family?

lol

You know what she probably still would.

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A few choice conversations, or rather exchanged phrases

'I favour a small government that doesn't interfere' - 'in that case you sound like me and i vote Labour' (What!)

'It's depressing that we are bearing the cost of incompetent govt leading to a massive banking crisis' - 'exactly, vote Labour as they will look after you and me, not the tory bankers'

'I think the state should stay off our backs, I don't think they help the poor in the long run, the poor should be helped to help themselves' - 'I vote labour because this is what they do'

admittedly living in the north you get blanket Labour supporting tendencies, but the denial of the nature of labours actual actions over 20 years is deafening

Would be just as laughable if they'd said they voted Tory.

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Not sure of this Labour troll topic.

We have a coalition government which is producing policies which in the fullness in time, will be non attributable to any party.

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Now I know why I could never live up North

By Eck, the north is much the worse for not having people like you living here, with your insightful views about politics, people and geography. Normally, the most enlightened people we ever see are Millwall fans who come up on the train hoping to get their heads kicked in.

If only you and more like you lived up here it would be a land of milk and honey. Sadly, although your move would massively increase the average IQ in the south, it would have a devastating effect on the figure for the north so on reflection, better stay where you are.

Edited by Stainless Sam

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A few choice conversations, or rather exchanged phrases

'I favour a small government that doesn't interfere' - 'in that case you sound like me and i vote Labour' (What!)

'It's depressing that we are bearing the cost of incompetent govt leading to a massive banking crisis' - 'exactly, vote Labour as they will look after you and me, not the tory bankers'

'I think the state should stay off our backs, I don't think they help the poor in the long run, the poor should be helped to help themselves' - 'I vote labour because this is what they do'

admittedly living in the north you get blanket Labour supporting tendencies, but the denial of the nature of labours actual actions over 20 years is deafening

Probably the memory of a shell of a party that used to represent them.

The tories wouldn't let them walk on their carpet.

I wouldn't vote for either, or UKIP. I'm still waiting for the alternative.

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Not sure the point of this Tory troll topic.

Most party supporters are conflicted. For example many Tories will believe in 'free market capitalism' yet will be screaming for intervention when market forces impoverish them.

I've never known a businessman refuse State cash either.

jeees

ok, one by one

(1) thanks for the personal attack, err...

(you then go on to respond kinbd of contradicting your first point. ho hum.)

(2) well yes many party supporters ARE conflicted, on its own that's a fair point

(2.5) just because nobody will turn down free cash does not mean it's a good idea for govt to give out free cash

(3) 'I've never known a businessman refuse State cash either.' - and? do you have a point?

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Probably the memory of a shell of a party that used to represent them.

The tories wouldn't let them walk on their carpet.

I wouldn't vote for either, or UKIP. I'm still waiting for the alternative.

I suspect Cameron's top-public school inner-circle/sphincter is already dissafecting a lot of right wing voters

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Not sure the point of this Tory troll topic.

Most party supporters are conflicted. For example many Tories will believe in 'free market capitalism' yet will be screaming for intervention when market forces impoverish them.

I've never known a businessman refuse State cash either.

I know a lot like this as well.

I used to be very Tory blinkered as well to be fair. Nothing ever their fault - if in doubt just blame socialism for anything and everything.

The Tories were only ever going to use the crisis they inherited to enrich themselves and the 1%. Be that land price propping, maintaining farm subs at the expense of other benefits, or rabid privatisation (often with insider interests).

Done nothing to convince me to vote for them again come 2015.

Oddly if Red Ed actually started acting red I might vote for him. State housing and renationalisation of the railways at the expense of farm subs and Help-To-Prop.

Edited by byron78

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