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Syriza in the lead in Greece,a ccording to projections:

SYRIZA 26.7% ND 22.8% GD 9.3% PASOK 8.1% Potami 6.7% KKE 6% IndGreeks 3.4%

https://twitter.com/electionista/status/470634834818527232

And Marine le Pen's Front National loooking to win in France, according to the French Interior Ministry.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27559714

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I was just about to begin a thread - well done.

I think we also need to compare BBC and Sky News bias... I mean, the quality of the programmes against one another. I don't think Channel 4/ ITV are doing a live show are they?

BBC Fivelive probably will do something also.

What I mean is - how many sneers against UKIP can various journos get into each programme?

Syriza - are they the party who want Greece to leave the EU? Doesn't matter though does it - this is just the EU elections and not the Greek national elections?

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will the EU ever accept it's just not wanted/needed, or will it carry on regardless, forcing people into "extreme" opposition?

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I was just about to begin a thread - well done.

I think we also need to compare BBC and Sky News bias... I mean, the quality of the programmes against one another. I don't think Channel 4/ ITV are doing a live show are they?

BBC Fivelive probably will do something also.

What I mean is - how many sneers against UKIP can various journos get into each programme?

Syriza - are they the party who want Greece to leave the EU? Doesn't matter though does it - this is just the EU elections and not the Greek national elections?

Syriza is a left wing anti-austerity party that in these elections at least has tried to put forward a broadly European alternative to the Troika policies of Merkel, ECB and IMF.

I think there is a Syriza type list in Italy and one or two other Club Med countries.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/events/vote2014


Exit poll from the European Parliament now puts the main centre-right grouping on 211 seats, compared with 265 in the outgoing parliament, and the socialist group on 193, slightly up. Eurosceptic parties would get around 129 seats.

So, pro-EU parties ~75% of seats, anti-EU ~25%. Some earthquake! More like a loud fart.

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Can the anti-Europe parties across Europe gain a majority and, if they can, are they able to flex any authority onto Barroso and Van Rompuy?

Despite all the excitement, they're absolutely nowhere near that.

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Can the anti-Europe parties across Europe gain a majority and, if they can, are they able to flex any authority onto Barroso and Van Rompuy?

European treaty terms are set by national governments.

Thatcher SEA is your Barroso, Major Maastricht your Von Rumpy. And so on.

How you vote in 2015 GE is what matters. And I guess you're still voting Tory.

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European treaty terms are set by national governments.

Thatcher SEA is your Barroso, Major Maastricht your Von Rumpy. And so on.

How you vote in 2015 GE is what matters. And I guess you're still voting Tory.

Was that remark aimed at me? Still voting Tory? How well you know me!

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Not this year, but if sentiment keeps following the same trend then who knows what will happen next time around.

Same thing as always happens when a bunch of nutters get elected. They'll make complete tools of themselves over the next four years then disappear into obscurity at the next elections. Face facts, no mainstream political party anywhere in Europe wants to leave the EU, they all have massive personal vested interests in staying in. The only way the UK, or any other country for that matter, is ever going to leave is as the result of armed insurrection. And that's pretty damn unlikely too.

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Same thing as always happens when a bunch of nutters get elected. They'll make complete tools of themselves over the next four years then disappear into obscurity at the next elections. Face facts, no mainstream political party anywhere in Europe wants to leave the EU, they all have massive personal vested interests in staying in. The only way the UK, or any other country for that matter, is ever going to leave is as the result of armed insurrection. And that's pretty damn unlikely too.

Sadly I fear you are right. A lot of bluster and plus c'est la meme chose.

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Emily Maitland is practically retching when talkin. about UKIP gains, Dimbleby's squirming. Do NOT pay your licence fee to line the pockets of these smug left-wing establishment scum.

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Was that remark aimed at me? Still voting Tory? How well you know me!

My apologies. Obviously you've been voting Blair Lisbon all along! Not particularly you. All of us, in one way or another.

My point is that the rules in Europe are set by domestic governments, not European institutions + the real issue is whether those governments are answerable to their electors, or to big "my tax evasion WILL hit you on the ass on the way out" biz.

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What I found most interesting about the local elections on Thursday is that the Liberal Democrats increased their majority in Sutton. I can only assume they are the hardest-working local councillors in the country!

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Can the anti-Europe parties across Europe gain a majority and, if they can, are they able to flex any authority onto Barroso and Van Rompuy?

The European Parliament has the power to dismiss the both Commision and its President, Jose Manuel Barroso. His term is up soon, anyway, and his successor must be appoved by the Parliament, as must the Commission itself. An anti-EU majority in the EP could, if it wished, cripple the EU by refusing to accept any new Commission or President.

Herman van Rompuy is the current President of the European Council, that is, the heads of the member states. His term is also up soon. His successor will be elected by the heads of state and is not accountable to the EP, so an anti-EU EP wouldn't be able to influence that appointment.

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Emily Maitland is practically retching when talkin. about UKIP gains, Dimbleby's squirming. Do NOT pay your licence fee to line the pockets of these smug left-wing establishment scum.

Would now be a good time to remind/point out that Kellner of YouGov is married to Ashton of Europe?

Probably.

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