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Simon Jenkins solution to the housing market is 'to free up spare rooms.' The UKIP spokesman even came out with the 'concreting over the countryside' cliche.

All the old boomers in the audience clapping like seals at every NIMBY statement.

Surprised my TV has survived tonight.

Time and time again 'our countryside.' 'for our children' Its not our countryside its owned by some feckin landowner.

rant over with!

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Simon Jenkins had the answer though. Free up more spare rooms...... How Dickensian.

He has got a PPE so be gentle with him.

Good news is that according to wiki he's 70 so hopefully he will soon be dead!

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Simon Jenkins solution to the housing market is 'to free up spare rooms.' The UKIP spokesman even came out with the 'concreting over the countryside' cliche.

All the old boomers in the audience clapping like seals at every NIMBY statement.

Surprised my TV has survived tonight.

Time and time again 'our countryside.' 'for our children' Its not our countryside its owned by some feckin landowner.

rant over with!

How can you raise a family in a spare room? Jenkins is a prize pillock, in sure I've heard he has a second home on national park land. Edited by hans kammler

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Simon Jenkins solution to the housing market is 'to free up spare rooms.' The UKIP spokesman even came out with the 'concreting over the countryside' cliche.

All the old boomers in the audience clapping like seals at every NIMBY statement.

Surprised my TV has survived tonight.

Time and time again 'our countryside.' 'for our children' Its not our countryside its owned by some feckin landowner.

rant over with!

Hes' not a UKIP spokesman on anything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b042rhbb/Question_Time_01_05_2014/

Simon Jenkins 'Writer and Chairman of the National Trust'

Did you mean UKIP's Community Spokesman Suzanne Evans?Did she say it?Don't want to watch the whole thing?

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Well, at least they did not come up with a new financial products - a rentage. A large loan to allow young people to pay their rents to the nice, public sector/BBC worker landlord.

F-cking bunhc of cretins.

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The solution offered by the audience, allow them to borrow more.

The country needs LOWER priced housing. The construction industry stopped building because they couldn’t sell their overpriced stock.

I don’t think if Labour were to build an extra 200,000 homes a year it would have any effect on prices demanded for new stock.

We need lower prices, and then after it’s revalued, building on the existing land bank and anywhere that there is a need for it. We’ve little domestic industry and not had any smogs for decades so building regs should reflect that.

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The LibDem guy made some good points, but the biggest applause went to the pro NIMBY/boomer brigade of UKIP and Simon Jenkins.

And Jenkins talks about the powerful 'building lobby' but the National Trust and the Countryside Alliance are another powerful lobby.

'Free up spare rooms in town centres' has got to be his 'let them eat cake' moment.

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'Free up spare rooms in town centres' has got to be his 'let them eat cake' moment.

The gall of these sort of people really is something to behold!

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Put people ahead of cows and crops within the M25. Problem solved.

Would you want to live in this place?

Serious question.

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Would you want to live in this place?

Serious question.

Well yes, there is plenty of room around London to build and keep a considerable amount of countryside. Havering/Essex for example are remarkably rural.

Its amazing to drive around Londons gyratory motorway and its mostly open countryside.

Its funny to see the Central Line venturing through fields and woodland as you drive up the M11! ^_^

Same with the District Line as it trundles out to Hornchurch and Upminster.

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Well yes, there is plenty of room around London to build and keep a considerable amount of countryside.

The problem is we all know this won't happen. With unrestrained immigration, and a house building free-for-all the natural conclusion will be to build everywhere (eventually).

So in 100 or so years (or however long it takes) every single bit of the UK will be concreted over in the name of supplying housing demand.

There has to be a limit somewhere.

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Errol, as has been done to death on here, that is a scaremongering reduction to absurdity which doesn't cut it.

We are a million or so houses short today, 4% of current stocks. This has built up over a decade or more and it a trivial amount of land compared to undeveloped sites in the UK.

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Yes, but with unrestrained immigration/population expansion eventually we will run out of land. It may take hundreds of years but it will happen unless rules are put in place to prevent it.

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What may or may not happen in decades/centuries hence is not a reason to stop building needed today.

It's because of this thought process that what I described will happen. Nobody will give it any thought until it's too late.

Immigration is the same.

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The problem is we all know this won't happen. With unrestrained immigration, and a house building free-for-all the natural conclusion will be to build everywhere (eventually).

So in 100 or so years (or however long it takes) every single bit of the UK will be concreted over in the name of supplying housing demand.

There has to be a limit somewhere.

I can't believe someone has used the 'concreted over' cliche on HPC!

Only 10,6% of England can be considered urban

If you doubled the amount of housing (which no one is asking for) it would still be substantially rural.

Most housing in the UK was built prior to WWII.

If existing ho moanerz feel so strongly about the countryside then they should be forced to partition up their large homes into smaller units, or at least pay for their hegemony with a Land Value Tax

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Yes, but with unrestrained immigration/population expansion eventually we will run out of land. It may take hundreds of years but it will happen unless rules are put in place to prevent it.

We're not that nice a country!

Global population will peak within 50 years, the developing world will become far more developed, and so the UK will cease to be so desirable.

Our means tested (rather than contribution based) benefit system is the biggest moral hazard Re:non-EU immigration. Sure isnt the cost/availability/quality/size of housing.

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Simon Jenkins ought to ring up his mate Prince Charles and tell him to free up spare rooms in Highgrove and Buckingham Palace.

Queen needs to lead by example.

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The problem is we all know this won't happen. With unrestrained immigration, and a house building free-for-all the natural conclusion will be to build everywhere (eventually).

So in 100 or so years (or however long it takes) every single bit of the UK will be concreted over in the name of supplying housing demand.

There has to be a limit somewhere.

Errol

Ofcourse you are right, but we have already past the point of over building throughout England, especially. The whole infastructure started collapsing 20 years ago plus and the slow but inevitable decline in the "quality" of peoples lives goes on without people noticing (boiled frog syndrome)

Symptoms include prices of homes beyond most peoples reach, small cramped homes, higher rates, higher crime, less space to do anything outside, conjested roads, noise pollution, pollution in every guise, limited amenities for human and animal, less tress, less "wilderness", less of any natural features, flooding, famine, pestulance, higher costs of any service, waste disposable expensive and difficult, limitations to personal freedoms, limitations to personal activities, facilities for children (schools and activities) playfields, ornamental gardens a thing of the past with the very few highly politicised open spaces with concrete sculptures and symetrically planted vegitation being flocked to by the increasing masses by increasing more and more conjested overpriced transportation. There are so many other symtoms look around you. Can you park your car outside your house? Is there a park/open space within a mile of where you live? Are you living in the size of house you want to live in? and in the area you want to live?

When you get people who think there is so much space around London and around motorways to build numerous cities on you Know we have a massive problem. There are so many in this denial, living in the most densily populated western style country in the world unable to self sustain itself and still thinking this way?

Overpopulation Debunked

Every person in the world could fit inside Australia. 4 acres per person.more than enough hey?

So everyone on the planet moves to Australia and leaves every where else for the other Fauna and Flora?

What could be the problem?

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