Patfig Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Now we are officially insignificant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okaycuckoo Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Statement of truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 It's dangerous to go there! I never went there only twice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The Tamar is the Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The Tamar is the Amazon. Some years back I went to the Eden Project and I recall reading on the wall that the Devil stayed east of the Tamar bcause he coudln't cope with Cornish pasties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patfig Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 The Tamar is the Amazon. Maybe they will extend it that few extra miles and make us properly an island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I was inspired to look up Cornwall on wikitravel. Reading that you'd think you were heading for Outer Mongolia. Amongst the "gems" there are: It should also be noted that there is a small chance of getting great white or tiger sharks off the south coast The stereotype of the Cornish as 'inbred' and 'backward' is a misconception and if repeated to a local is likely to cause embrassement and offence (and perhaps a smack). Occasionally, outsiders can attract attention in local pubs, but this is no worse than in other areas of the country. If you are looking to use a mobile in Cornwall it might be a good idea to purchase a local sim card. http://wikitravel.org/en/Cornwall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Maybe they will extend it that few extra miles and make us properly an island Make the rest of Britain an island you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The stereotype of the Cornish as 'inbred' and 'backward' is a misconception and if repeated to a local is likely to cause embrassement and offence (and perhaps a smack). Occasionally, outsiders can attract attention in local pubs, but this is no worse than in other areas of the country. I can't see how a Yorkshireman driving a Cadlillac, and playing a ukulele, would stand out at all, apart from in Lancashire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patfig Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Make the rest of Britain an island you mean. Indeed :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I was inspired to look up Cornwall on wikitravel. Reading that you'd think you were heading for Outer Mongolia. Amongst the "gems" there are: http://wikitravel.org/en/Cornwall Sounds like the 1658 edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Sounds like the 1658 edition. D H Lawrence would have said the 1916 edition! They moved to Cornwall, staying at Tregerthen Cottage in Zennor. They found a cottage in Zennor that they could rent for five pounds per year. They bought some second-hand furniture and moved in during March 1916. They persuaded Katherine Mansfield and John Middleton Murry to take the cottage next door. However Katherine hated it there ands Murry turned down Lawrence's offer of blood-brotherhood and after only a few weeks they left. There nearby farming family reminded him of his youth and "The Haggs". He became friendly with the Hockings of Tregerthen Farm. There has been speculation about whether he had a homosexual relationship with William Henry Hocking. Frieda said that she thought he did, and the Prologue to Women in Love would seem to suggest that Lawrence found him physically attractive, but there is no proof. Frieda was a cousin of the German pilot, and air ace, Baron Manfred von Richthofen. Frieda and Lawrence were apparently often heard singing German songs as they walked along the cliffs. As the war progressed, anti German feeling in the country grew, and some of the Cornish people turned against Lawrence and Frieda. War-time rumors developed: there was a stock of petrol for German submarines at the bottom of the cliffs near the Lawrences' cottage: the patterns on the Lawrence's chimney were a signal for patrolling submarines (the main Atlantic convoy route lay along the nearby coast). They were stopped on one occasion by a military patrol and their shopping searched (a square loaf of bread was seized on as a camera). A letter written by Frieda in February 1917 refers to 3 ships being torpedoed "just here" and they saw the men struggling in the water. In 1917 they were accused of signaling to submarine crews in the channel using lights, and their cottage was searched by the police. Finally, on October 11th 1917 they received an order to leave the county by the 15th, under the Defence of the Realm Act. Lawrence describes much of his Cornwall stay (and expulsion) in the "Nightmare" chapter of Kangaroo. http://www.cornwall-calling.co.uk/famous-cornish-people/d.h.lawrence.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Not a lot of people know that Cornwall got its name when a massive wall of corn was erected to cut the county off as a symbol of rejection of the corn laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Not a lot of people know that Cornwall got its name when a massive wall of corn was erected to cut the county off as a symbol of rejection of the corn laws. Well I didn't know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 D H Lawrence would have said the 1916 edition! http://www.cornwall-calling.co.uk/famous-cornish-people/d.h.lawrence.htm That's pretty spectacular! "You're not from around here, are you ...?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 D H Lawrence would have said the 1916 edition! http://www.cornwall-calling.co.uk/famous-cornish-people/d.h.lawrence.htm No, you're wrong. Cornish sim cards were widely available until the Restoration in 1660, after which they were banned as a symbol of the hated English Republic. At the time of Lawrence's stay in 1917, they had still not been reintroduced, and in fact had to wait for the passage of the Telecommunications Act of 2003 for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 That's pretty spectacular! "You're not from around here, are you ...?" It's good isn't it! A SQUARE loaf of bread? Witchcraft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 No, you're wrong. Cornish sim cards were widely available until the Restoration in 1660, after which they were banned as a symbol of the hated English Republic. At the time of Lawrence's stay in 1917, they had still not been reintroduced, and in fact had to wait for the passage of the Telecommunications Act of 2003 for that. Ah the butcher's apron* at it's evil work again! * what Cornish nationalists call the English flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Oldham'll be next. Sorry Chadderton. They still haven't got over the 1974 mix about which meant Chadderton joined some other towns to form Oldham. Oldham being the name of one of them.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Borough_of_Oldham The local history guy has a huge hissy fit if you refer to Chadderton as being in Oldham. It's almost funny to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Oldham'll be next. Sorry Chadderton. They still haven't got over the 1974 mix about which meant Chadderton joined some other towns to form Oldham. Oldham being the name of one of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Borough_of_Oldham The local history guy has a huge hissy fit if you refer to Chadderton as being in Oldham. It's almost funny to watch. Bring back Brigantia! I remember Prescott with EU backing trying to get NE England to declare itself a separate region. The clear motive was to break down the concept of England as a nation because it then could stand against the EU. As it's about to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I believe the population of these islands is going to exceed mainland Europe in about 200 years anyway. Just think of the GDP growth between now and then when you're living eight to a shed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'd love to move to Cornwall with Frank and Mr Fig. One of my friends is planning to retire there! I met him at the Tourette's society, and he's ******ing coming your way you *****s! Edited for swearyness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Now they are an identifiable ethnic minority, we can hate them! They call us emmets and grockles! I hate 'cornies'! Or is it 'corns'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Now they are an identifiable ethnic minority, we can hate them! They call us emmets and grockles! I hate 'cornies'! Or is it 'corns'? I haven't heard emmet for ages, bloody tourists is the nom de jour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I haven't heard emmet for ages, bloody tourists is the nom de jour. What's a grockel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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