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No, you can register self-employed (like I do) if you have many clients. If you have only one client e.g. your UK employer, then you can draw up a very simple TRADE contract which basically says that you are a freelancer working on a contract basis and so you are responsible for your own social security contributions

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Often wondered whether it is entirely necessary to buy a property abroad. You can rent pretty cheap in most club med countries and, if things don't work out, just walk away. Renting out in UK will easily cover your holiday home and provide a useful income.

Healthcare is an issue in a few places. For a start there is language - unless you are fairly proficient a local doctor will be reluctant to take you on. It is also true that many places don't really want to know about the European Health Insurance Card. Unlike the NHS, you'll have to pay up front and claim back later . . . but good luck with that. So be prepared for a little health tourism.

There is a lot to be said for retiring abroad . . . the cost of living in UK now is truly absurd. But there are many better choices these days than Spain.

The Health system is very good and free for retireds and travellers with the EHI card (very often travellers with travel insurance will be taken to a private hospital, you can guess why)....as far as I know, everyone else living there either has to work and pay NI/taxes or pay for their own insurance health policy or they will not be treated for free....long-term renting is cheap and tenants who pay their rents have better protection than they do in the UK. ;)

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The Health system is very good and free for retireds . . .

Thanks for info. France is excellent too on that score.

long-term renting is cheap and tenants who pay their rents have better protection than they do in the UK. ;)

Sadly, true of so many places . . . but you can get really screwed over buying somewhere.

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wot, no expats outside the EU...Im stunned.

Indeed there are but the difference is that those outside the EU have already factored in the fact they do not benefit from reciprocal health and social security arrangements that exist within the EU which could be removed if the UK left. There are as many UK nationals living in other EU countries as EU nationals from other EU countries living in the UK. Other EU countries are not likely to look favourably on UK nationals benefitting from their services if the UK closes the door the other way.

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The Health system is very good and free for retireds and travellers with the EHI card (very often travellers with travel insurance will be taken to a private hospital, you can guess why)....as far as I know, everyone else living there either has to work and pay NI/taxes or pay for their own insurance health policy or they will not be treated for free....long-term renting is cheap and tenants who pay their rents have better protection than they do in the UK. ;)

The renters who dont pay enjoy better protection, in our community it took 3 years to get a family of scum bags out who never paid a penny used the community services free and generally messed up the place, but when the landlords do get an eviction order no messing team handed including Guardia turn up door smashed in, locks changed, furniture out by the bins. even if kids are living there.

I wouldn't rent out to anybody at any time in Spain you may be lucky with good tenants but you may not as well, if you are not there anything can happen so many people find this out. I have heard lots of stories about rental agents doing a bunk with your cash breakages non payments etc etc.

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Indeed there are but the difference is that those outside the EU have already factored in the fact they do not benefit from reciprocal health and social security arrangements that exist within the EU which could be removed if the UK left. There are as many UK nationals living in other EU countries as EU nationals from other EU countries living in the UK. Other EU countries are not likely to look favourably on UK nationals benefitting from their services if the UK closes the door the other way.

The figures given in the FT were 1.8 million Britons living in the rest of the EU and 2.34million EU citizens living in the Uk

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5cd640f6-9025-11e3-a776-00144feab7de.html#axzz2ztg5qgjE

I dont know how the FT can describe that as 'balanced' since the extra number of EU citizens in the UK is larger than a city the size of Sheffield There are actually about 30% more EU nationals living in the UK than Brits living on the Continent.

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Thanks for info. France is excellent too on that score.

French govt has announced 10 billion in cut backs to the health service today, wait and see what it is like in 5 years. One plan is to pay for doctors visits - about 25-35 euros a shot.

> The figures given in the FT were 1.8 million Britons living in the rest of the EU and 2.34million EU citizens living in the Uk

if Britain leaves the EU there will have to be some bilateral agreements as with Switzerland. Currently Swiss pensions are transportable throughout Europe.

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The renters who dont pay enjoy better protection, in our community it took 3 years to get a family of scum bags out who never paid a penny used the community services free and generally messed up the place, but when the landlords do get an eviction order no messing team handed including Guardia turn up door smashed in, locks changed, furniture out by the bins. even if kids are living there.

I wouldn't rent out to anybody at any time in Spain you may be lucky with good tenants but you may not as well, if you are not there anything can happen so many people find this out. I have heard lots of stories about rental agents doing a bunk with your cash breakages non payments etc etc.

Well the best advise is not to rent it out....surely it is the owners who are ultimately responsible to pay the community fees...no tenants no problems, it is not as if tenants are short of rental choices, simply because some owners have no other choice but to let it out whatever the consequences good or bad....a few euros and some aggravation is better than nothing at all.....anyway why buy a place you can't use yourself.....a house is a home not an investment, not a very good investment at that. ;)

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