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Bbc Wants You To Pay Tv Licence Fee Even If You Don’T Own A Set, As Shows Go On Iplayer For Longer

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Lord Hall, the BBC’s director-general, wants to extend the £145.50 annual fee in response to the growing popularity of iPlayer, which enables viewers to watch programmes on home computers, mobile phones and tablet devices.

The news came as the BBC announced it will make programmes available to view on iPlayer for 30 days after they are first broadcast, instead of seven, later this year.

Executives at the broadcaster have suggested that reforms, which are due to be agreed with ministers in 2016, could include a new “universal charge” on all households, regardless of whether they own a television.

Such a tax has already been introduced in Germany and Sweden and is being considered in Ireland and Switzerland, the executives said in a report to MPs on the Commons media select committee.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10746109/BBC-wants-you-to-pay-TV-licence-fee-even-if-you-dont-own-a-set-as-shows-go-on-iPlayer-for-longer.html

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I would have thought that if they want it to be a general tax (no longer associated with owning a TV), then there would be a stronger argument for it being funded from general taxation as well.

Except they won't want this because they know the government would cut their budget every time they needed to cut some spending.

If the BBC are that concerned about the increasing use of iplayer perhaps they should put it behind a security wall and print a log-in ID and password on each license they issue?

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I would have thought that if they want it to be a general tax (no longer associated with owning a TV), then there would be a stronger argument for it being funded from general taxation as well.

Except they won't want this because they know the government would cut their budget every time they needed to cut some spending.

If the BBC are that concerned about the increasing use of iplayer perhaps they should put it behind a security wall and print a log-in ID and password on each license they issue?

Exactly,a security wall would be the obvious solution but it appears taxing everyone for a product they may or may not use or want is easier.

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If the BBC are that concerned about the increasing use of iplayer perhaps they should put it behind a security wall and print a log-in ID and password on each license they issue?

Exactly.

Exactly,a security wall would be the obvious solution but it appears taxing everyone for a product they may or may not use or want is easier more lucrative.

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In Germany there are a few hundred court cases pending against this highly controversial 'per household tv fee' which many consider unconstitutional.

Quite a few people refuse to pay it too (which is very unusual in Germany) and so far there doesn't seem to have been any action against them yet.

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Shit yer pants BBC! :huh: You have failed to "educate, inform and entertain" for quite some time! :blink:

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What's on today..

My link

BBC 2 has something on the great barrier reef.. could be ok ish.

BBC 3 has Family Guy and American Dad that I might watch if I was bored, but the cynical me suspects they are only putting good programming on because of the threat to axe it.

One possible thing I might watch and two maybe's doesn't justify a license fee in my mind. As for the rest it looks like total trash.

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We're rapidly approaching crunch time on the TV licence.

Hall has realised that there are now viable alternatives to terrestrial television and that an increasing number of people are using them as a means to circumvent the legal requirement to buy a TV licence. At the same time, the Tories and Lib Dems are agreed on decriminalising licence fee evasion, which means that it stands a realistic chance of happening before too much longer.

So one of two things will have to happen. Either the compulsory, ringfenced fee model of funding the BBC will have to be updated so that it is near universal and difficult to avoid in the current technological landscape (which basically means requiring everyone with Internet access in their home to pay it and keeping evasion a criminal offence), or a whole new way has to be found of funding the BBC, which will almost certainly require it to contract significantly. So of course Hall is lobbying for the former. However, I think that would be so electorally unpopular that it's a non-starter. Even though those who currently watch Internet-delivered TV as a way to avoid the licence are younger and thus less likely to vote, the prospect of being caught within the net is likely to bring them out to the polls, because that £145 is a visible, discrete payment that they'll be immediately aware of - it's not buried in general taxation.

Interestingly, a similar phenomenon is happening in the US. Devices are being increasingly and aggressively marketed for connecting PCs and tablets to living room TVs (e.g. Google Chromecast), and promoted as a way to avoid cable subscriptions by enabling you to watch Netflix and other Internet-streamed content on your TV. That combined with some high profile disputes between content providers and cable network (e.g. Time Warner dropping The Weather Channel and CBS dropping the Dodgers in protest at their prices) has caused a significant drop in cable subscriptions over the last couple of years, on a scale unheard of in the medium's history.

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Exactly,a security wall would be the obvious solution but it appears taxing everyone for a product they may or may not use or want is easier.

Funny enough, the BBC did a "security wall" in early to mid 1990s with a set-top-box called a Selector, so there is no excuse for them not to do it.

BBC Select was an overnight television service run by the BBC during the hours when BBC1 or BBC2 had closed down, usually between 2am and 6am. The channel showed programming intended for specialist audiences, such as businessmen, lawyers, nurses and teachers, and was designed to be viewed after broadcast via a video recording. It was funded by a subscription, and most programming was scrambled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Select

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I've suspected the iPlayer was a perfectly designed tool to lobby for a change in license fee arrangements. They make a big success of it and then point to the business they lose. Could easily have an online registration and iPlayer access tied to a license if they wanted.

General taxation funding terrifies me as it negates the ability to avoid paying for property porn to be used against me.

The subscription option is always absent from proposals despite Netflix being half the cost of a license fee and very popular. I'm sure the Beeb could charge similar and cane it in. But that doesn't pay for absurd pensions etc so we can't have that.

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I think it is bizarre the TVL model still exists in the 21st Century. Pay for state TV or watch no live TV or watch it and risk imprisonment.

This is not an essential service, it's just entertainment.

Why do they think they have a God given right to exist over other independent channels?

I am legally licence free now but would probably pay £5pm for online access to the iplayer catchup stuff if I had to.

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