MrPin Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 All other primates have forward facing eyes and are largely though not exclusively vegetarian. Always what I look for in a woman! Two eyes that point in roughly the same direction! I am not Welsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 All other primates have forward facing eyes and are largely though not exclusively vegetarian. We are not ruminants though as we don't have the advanced stomachs required to process vegetation. The 'energy return on investment' from exclusively eating plants can be poor. We'd have to spend all day eating just to get our calories, and not be able to move due to constant grazing an enormous stomachs. Some animals, like rabbits have eat their own poop to get just a little more energy out of the food (thankfully our own secondary digestion system does, this provided we have the (external) bacteria. flora or whatever. Wandering dangerously back on topic I tend to avoid pork but I can't remember why. There are health problems with it (especially undercooked pork) but there are with anything. It has tended to become a white and almost tasteless meat. Of course its not really mean't to be like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Deflation Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Let Muslim kids eat pork. What's the problem? It's fine if well-cooked and god doesn't exist anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 c I tend to avoid pork but I can't remember why. There are health problems with it (especially undercooked pork) but there are with anything. It has tended to become a white and almost tasteless meat. Of course its not really mean't to be like that. Bacon. Many years ago I was part of a group who used to meet up around lunchtime. We'd discovered a cafe which would drop off a box of breakfast butties. So we'd have bacon and sausage sandwiches. Even the Jewish guy and the Muslim. The only person who wouldn't was the vegetarian. And I know he was struggling to resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Bacon. Many years ago I was part of a group who used to meet up around lunchtime. We'd discovered a cafe which would drop off a box of breakfast butties. So we'd have bacon and sausage sandwiches. Even the Jewish guy and the Muslim. The only person who wouldn't was the vegetarian. And I know he was struggling to resist. Pork for Jews! I like it already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Pork for Jews! I like it already! What like Band Aid? With musicians singing songs about pork and bacon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Bacon. Many years ago I was part of a group who used to meet up around lunchtime. We'd discovered a cafe which would drop off a box of breakfast butties. So we'd have bacon and sausage sandwiches. Even the Jewish guy and the Muslim. The only person who wouldn't was the vegetarian. And I know he was struggling to resist. Oh yeh I forgot about bacon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC1 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Bacon. Many years ago I was part of a group who used to meet up around lunchtime. We'd discovered a cafe which would drop off a box of breakfast butties. So we'd have bacon and sausage sandwiches. Even the Jewish guy and the Muslim. The only person who wouldn't was the vegetarian. And I know he was struggling to resist. I've just discovered bacon made with old-breed Mangalitsa pigs is the best tasting bacon in the world, especially (& because of) the delicious crispy fat, mmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 All other primates have forward facing eyes and are largely though not exclusively vegetarian. Insects are a normal part of the diet of the other great apes. Somebody who eats animals is not vegetarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barlow Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Humans have basically evolved to eat fatty meat, and oily fish. Just a look at human digestion suggests carbohydrate processing was purely an evolutionary back up system. Fat and animal protein is efficiently digested using bodies internal enzymes, salts and bile with little waste, carbs have to be fermented, and even then the body can only use the bug poop. Its getting harder though, as animals are fed with crap to fatten them up, so we can still get the wrong type of fats. We eat what they have metabolised. Eh? Glucose is absorbed directly into the bloodstream and can be utilised directly by cells Fructose is metabolised by the liver and utilised from there Starch is basically converted to glucose I think you are confusing carbohydrates as a whole with cellulose which I agree needs fermentation - a specialism performed by ruminants with 4 stomachs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Eh? I think you are confusing carbohydrates as a whole with cellulose which I agree needs fermentation - a specialism performed by ruminants with 4 stomachs. Rabbits eat heir own poo! Well I looked at mine this morning and I had a bacon sandwich instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Eh? Glucose is absorbed directly into the bloodstream and can be utilised directly by cells Fructose is metabolised by the liver and utilised from there Starch is basically converted to glucose I think you are confusing carbohydrates as a whole with cellulose which I agree needs fermentation - a specialism performed by ruminants with 4 stomachs. Yes, as you are aware the bodies ability to store glucose is very limited, in the muscles and liver and humans have very limited storage, little more than a day. Furthermore glucose can only be utilised as fuel, whereas proteins and fats, can be used for body and cell repair, growth and elements that if can't manufacture itself. Somewhat missing the point though. In the absence of starch and glucose the body can quite easily oxidise fat, the liver producing the byproduct of ketones which can be burned in the muscles as fuel or to supply the brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Rabbits eat heir own poo! Well I looked at mine this morning and I had a bacon sandwich instead! That would put me off eating my rabbit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Miyagi Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honkydonkey Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 At least the French are fighting back. Good for them, might emigrate their myself and integrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 At least the French are fighting back. Good for them, might emigrate their myself and integrate. Non c'est possible, Monsieur Ros-bif! Merde Alors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC1 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Non c'est possible, Monsieur Ros-bif! Merde Alors! Quite. The French don't integrate with foreigners, they tolerate them with varying levels of disdain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail the Tripod Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Insects are a normal part of the diet of the other great apes. Somebody who eats animals is not vegetarian. The point was that forward facing eyes is not a good way of determining whether an animal is primarily a carnivore or herbivore, given that it would lead you to think chimpanzees are primarily meat eaters and crocodiles are more partial to a salad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepLurker Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Quite. The French don't integrate with foreigners, they tolerate them with varying levels of disdain. "Foreigners" is of course a nebulous concept. If you're in Paris, it probably means someone from another sovereign nation. If you're from a tiny village in the Auvergne, it probably means anyone not born within sight of the church belfry. Incidentally, in much of France, Parisians are treated with more disdain than genuine foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 "Foreigners" is of course a nebulous concept. If you're in Paris, it probably means someone from another sovereign nation. If you're from a tiny village in the Auvergne, it probably means anyone not born within sight of the church belfry. Incidentally, in much of France, Parisians are treated with more disdain than genuine foreigners. What you said! French colleague got rid of his Paris registered (department 75) car, and got a local one when when he did his National Service in Marseilles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronyx Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 "Foreigners" is of course a nebulous concept. If you're in Paris, it probably means someone from another sovereign nation. If you're from a tiny village in the Auvergne, it probably means anyone not born within sight of the church belfry. Incidentally, in much of France, Parisians are treated with more disdain than genuine foreigners. I wish that applied here in a similar fashion with Londoners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenpig Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I can't be bothered checking my facts, but I believe something like a third of the French population is of Italian, Portuguese or Polish descent. The amazing thing is how uniform they all look. Pop over the border to Spain or Belgium, and the population is all mongrels. Even the Arabs look French Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 What you said! French colleague got rid of his Paris registered (department 75) car, and got a local one when when he did his National Service in Marseilles! I think you're supposed to do that by law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 At least the French are fighting back. Good for them, might emigrate their myself and integrate. You will never fully integrate in France. A little more if you are young(under 25) and you marry a French person, but still, never 100%. If you go to live there and you have kids, they will integrate, but you, never. This is not to say that you can't have a pleasant life there- I would say not integrating is better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Returning to the thread, I'm not anti-Muslim, Jew, or indeed anyone in particular, but I actually think the French have this right, state schools should be 100% secular and the same rules for everyone. IMO there's a case for always having a fish or vegetarian option, but not for excluding any food on religious grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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