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National Media Bashes Lazy Brits Whilst Seemingly Supporting Illegal Migrant Workers!

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I don't normally read the Sun but something about lazy Brits and Migrant workers who want to get on caught my eye so I had a peek.

Martin Daubney aka Sun Man went to town on workshy Brits, and he is pictured working in Costa and doing Pizza delivery for Pizza Hut however the gormless Daubney tries his hand at a bit of Labouring for £6.36 an hour. Daubney makes special mention that this is dirty work and the team of Macedonians who work for the builder don't mind getting their hands dirty.

The hapless Sun reporter then goes on to say that the owner of the construction company "Tom Rolls (34) only employs Macedonians as their work ethic is faultless, "I employ them because they are better, and don't stop until the work is done, it's rubbish to suggest I only employ immigrants because they are cheaper!"

Hang on a minute though, Macedonia, aka Former Yugoslav Republic of, isn't a member of the EU, which means Macedonians do not have a right of free movement within the EU (that includes the UK) and cannot work in the UK without a work permit, and to get a work permit for the construction industry is impossible. So do we take that Tom Rolls of Rolls Property Services Ltd. 3 Oakhurst Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 9AH is employing illegal workers?

Of course we could ignore the fact or we could do the right thing and report a suspected illegal settler in the country, all you have to do is pick up that phone, and dial the UK Border Agency contact number at 0843 515 8453.

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Not necessarily illegal. A lot of Macedonians could claim bulgarian citizenship based on links to Bulgaria, where ones grandparents were Bulgarians. That effectively gives them Bulgarian passport and with it EU rights.

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Even back in the 90s, before they joined the EU, I was always meeting Eastern Europeans working in perfectly normal office jobs in London and I always wanted to ask how on earth they got their visas but it seemed rude to ask. Presumably they were legal and presumably it is not that difficult generally.

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I don't normally read the Sun but something about lazy Brits and Migrant workers who want to get on caught my eye so I had a peek.

Martin Daubney aka Sun Man went to town on workshy Brits, and he is pictured working in Costa and doing Pizza delivery for Pizza Hut however the gormless Daubney tries his hand at a bit of Labouring for £6.36 an hour. Daubney makes special mention that this is dirty work and the team of Macedonians who work for the builder don't mind getting their hands dirty.

The hapless Sun reporter then goes on to say that the owner of the construction company "Tom Rolls (34) only employs Macedonians as their work ethic is faultless, "I employ them because they are better, and don't stop until the work is done, it's rubbish to suggest I only employ immigrants because they are cheaper!"

Hang on a minute though, Macedonia, aka Former Yugoslav Republic of, isn't a member of the EU, which means Macedonians do not have a right of free movement within the EU (that includes the UK) and cannot work in the UK without a work permit, and to get a work permit for the construction industry is impossible. So do we take that Tom Rolls of Rolls Property Services Ltd. 3 Oakhurst Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 9AH is employing illegal workers?

Of course we could ignore the fact or we could do the right thing and report a suspected illegal settler in the country, all you have to do is pick up that phone, and dial the UK Border Agency contact number at 0843 515 8453.

Is this the jumped up little twit?

https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney

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Isn't there 2 Macedonias?

One of which is in Greece. I think they objected to the other Macedonia being called Macedonia.

Yeth.

Oo do they thing-k they are? They are not Macca-don-ear. Macca-don-ear ith in Greeth.

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Not necessarily illegal. A lot of Macedonians could claim bulgarian citizenship based on links to Bulgaria, where ones grandparents were Bulgarians. That effectively gives them Bulgarian passport and with it EU rights.

Utter tosh! No country in the EU gives passport rights, parents yes but not grandparents otherwise half the world would be claiming a EU passport!

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Is this the jumped up little twit?

https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney

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that the Tory Boi

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Utter tosh! No country in the EU gives passport rights, parents yes but not grandparents otherwise half the world would be claiming a EU passport!

I know that Spain does to South Americans. Also gives them to North Africans if they agree to leave Spain. Italy does the latter too.

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Utter tosh! No country in the EU gives passport rights, parents yes but not grandparents otherwise half the world would be claiming a EU passport!

Google is a useful tool

https://www.myitalianfamily.com/record/requirements.html

Your Paternal Grandfather was an Italian Citizen

Your father was born in the United States, your paternal grandfather was an Italian citizen at the time of your father's birth, neither you nor your father ever renounced your right to Italian citizenship. Find Required Documents

Which takes you to https://www.myitalianfamily.com/record/requirements-paternal-grandfather.html

which tells you all the Italian documents you need. I used to read a Brazilian magazine called Leros and it was full of adverts saying how to get an Italian passport. The reason why millions don't come here is because not everyone has the right certificates and Italian bureaucracy is not very efficient or fast.

I think the same is true for some other EU countries.

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Not necessarily illegal. A lot of Macedonians could claim bulgarian citizenship based on links to Bulgaria, where ones grandparents were Bulgarians. That effectively gives them Bulgarian passport and with it EU rights.

Indeed. I think Farage has been saying as much. Cameron cant say 'well we have control over non-EU immigration' as not having control over other member states immigration policies means anyone can come to the UK via those countries.

Many of the somali's in the UK dont come direct from somalia for example, but rather via Norway/Sweden/Holland

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Google is a useful tool

https://www.myitalianfamily.com/record/requirements.html

Which takes you to https://www.myitalianfamily.com/record/requirements-paternal-grandfather.html

which tells you all the Italian documents you need. I used to read a Brazilian magazine called Leros and it was full of adverts saying how to get an Italian passport. The reason why millions don't come here is because not everyone has the right certificates and Italian bureaucracy is not very efficient or fast.

I think the same is true for some other EU countries.

yup. same for holland and its old colonies.

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Google is a useful tool

https://www.myitalianfamily.com/record/requirements.html

Which takes you to https://www.myitalianfamily.com/record/requirements-paternal-grandfather.html

which tells you all the Italian documents you need. I used to read a Brazilian magazine called Leros and it was full of adverts saying how to get an Italian passport. The reason why millions don't come here is because not everyone has the right certificates and Italian bureaucracy is not very efficient or fast.

I think the same is true for some other EU countries.

Trouble with this as has been proved countless times many people are not actually entitled to passports this way, after the shooting in London of the Brazilian student (who was actually an illegal overstayer) there was a lot of talk of Brazilians on Italian passports, some where found to have obtained them by dubious means.

Anyway in this case, Macedonia was part of Yugoslavia from 1918 and claiming that these people are somehow Bulgarian through parentage is dubious, Most grand parents of those working in the UK today would not have been born before the Second World War and were very much Yugoslav by nationality.

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Indeed. I think Farage has been saying as much. Cameron cant say 'well we have control over non-EU immigration' as not having control over other member states immigration policies means anyone can come to the UK via those countries.

Many of the somali's in the UK dont come direct from somalia for example, but rather via Norway/Sweden/Holland

They claim asylum in soft countries like Sweden then come to the UK where they would never have gained asylum

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yup. same for holland and its old colonies.

Before independence, Dutch citizenship was held by many persons in Suriname and Indonesia. In general, those acquiring citizenship of these countries at independence lost their Dutch citizenship. A request for determination of citizenship status can be addressed to the Dutch authorities.

Don't confuse the Dutch territories in the Caribbean as former colonies, and its the Netherlands not Holland!

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Trouble with this as has been proved countless times many people are not actually entitled to passports this way, after the shooting in London of the Brazilian student (who was actually an illegal overstayer) there was a lot of talk of Brazilians on Italian passports, some where found to have obtained them by dubious means.

Anyway in this case, Macedonia was part of Yugoslavia from 1918 and claiming that these people are somehow Bulgarian through parentage is dubious, Most grand parents of those working in the UK today would not have been born before the Second World War and were very much Yugoslav by nationality.

True a lot of people are not entitled to passports this way but a lot are. I know a girl from Brazil who is in the process of getting an Italian passport. Do you think I made these links up to prove a point?

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Utter tosh! No country in the EU gives passport rights, parents yes but not grandparents otherwise half the world would be claiming a EU passport!

Sometimes its worth looking beyond the constrains of own media pool.

a bit of tosh

Some more tosh

Even more

I will refrain from providing links in bulgarian and macedonian because of the language barrier...

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I think you get lazy and hard working in all nationalities....... Often it is the ones who move to improve are the ones prepared to work to better their circumstances.....completely different argument to having far too much immigration. ;)

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