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more houses welcome but it wont benefit the working man...they need to stop btl...stop foreign investors...stop immigration...allow the much needed house price correction.

otherwise this is just them building to support the investors builders and bankers....not the people.

we need REAL CHANGE first.

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Probably need 10 of those per year.

It's just another SE circle jerk unfortunately. Completely misunderstands the problem UK is facing. UK needs less SE not more.

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Chinese investors will probably buy the new town off-plan.

It's funny isn't it, if you want to get 10K out of your bank in cash for whatever reason the full force of ant-money laundering rules comes down on you. If you want to buy a 500K house, from overseas, with largely dirty money (Singapore and, to some extent, HK excluded from that), then they don't seem to apply anymore.

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Chinese investors will probably buy the new town off-plan.

And leave them unoccupied to increase the capital gains.

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And leave them unoccupied to increase the capital gains.

Indeed. Why bother building them? Can't we send them a few photoshops of completed builds and bank the money?

Think of it like an adopt a poor British house campaign. We can resell the imaginary unbuilt house again and again.

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It's funny isn't it, if you want to get 10K out of your bank in cash for whatever reason the full force of ant-money laundering rules comes down on you. If you want to buy a 500K house, from overseas, with largely dirty money (Singapore and, to some extent, HK excluded from that), then they don't seem to apply anymore.

.....because money wherever it comes from or however it is gained comes first before people, people are just another type of money that makes money but they also have demands? ;)

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Indeed. Why bother building them? Can't we send them a few photoshops of completed builds and bank the money?

Think of it like an adopt a poor British house campaign. We can resell the imaginary unbuilt house again and again.

It'd be just upscaling the traditional 419 scam. :lol:

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Probably need 10 of those per year.

It's just another SE circle jerk unfortunately. Completely misunderstands the problem UK is facing. UK needs less SE not more.

It worked so well in the fastest growing economy.

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Indeed. Why bother building them? Can't we send them a few photoshops of completed builds and bank the money?

Think of it like an adopt a poor British house campaign. We can resell the imaginary unbuilt house again and again.

Built property only means they have to be insured and maintained. These properties will be worth more if they are never built.

It could be the first town to only exist on paper.

A developer's and NIMBY's dream.

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Built property only means they have to be insured and maintained. These properties will be worth more if they are never built.

It could be the first town to only exist on paper.

A developer's and NIMBY's dream.

Second Life got there first.

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Just announced?

lets see...build High Speed rail hub in Ebbsfleet, a place that has no connection with anywhere, along with motorway alterations 5 years ago...must have taken 10 years in the planning...and now, its going to have a Town built around it?

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Indeed. Why bother building them? Can't we send them a few photoshops of completed builds and bank the money?

Think of it like an adopt a poor British house campaign. We can resell the imaginary unbuilt house again and again.

:D You need to email Michael Green/Grant Shapps with your proposal.

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Just announced?

lets see...build High Speed rail hub in Ebbsfleet, a place that has no connection with anywhere, along with motorway alterations 5 years ago...must have taken 10 years in the planning...and now, its going to have a Town built around it?

Yes, I think thats more it. HSR has been a huge white elephant with most people using the slower but cheaper old connections. My guess is they'll probably build this purely so they can say 'ha, we told you HSR was a good investment' (while banning any other form of transport to the town)

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Flood Plain?

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Flood Plain?

According to this

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=205&t=1388798&i=0&mid=0&nmt=New+%27Garden+City%27+at+Ebbsfleet

Bluewater next door does NOT have any basements due to the local water table being only

4' below the surface (I was there when it was being built) and they have water pumps running

24 - 7 to keep it at that level.

Still, it ties in with the govts doublethink on debt and saving. Be responsible, Save diligently so you can qualify for one of our loans you can use to push up shoebox prices.

Dont buy in floodplains, but we'll build in them.

I guess the fact its surrounded by retail and industrial areas means fewer NIMBYs to work themselves into a frenzy.

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Some seem astonished that towns are built around transport interchanges? Well it's only happened for thousands of years because that's the ideal place.

I don't think HS1 has failed. It may not be packed on every train but that was due to the gov placing ridiculously high fares on it. The other lines suffered to as they also had large increases attached, though don't cost as much.

As for Bluewater it's built in quarry. Ebbsfleet isn't. Slightly different geographically. Bluewater was purposefully built there as what else would go in a massive former chalk quarry?

As for flooding - It's not in a particularly bad area for it. And just improve the flood defences. Half of the UK would never have been built on if there were worries about flooding but they didn't build defences.

I have no doubt this will be implemented terribly but the complaints about building near a new train line is a bit tiresome. It will likely fail because of poor architecture standards in the UK, tiny houses, shite planning regarding parks etc, crazy prices and building so slowly amenties like decent shops, post office, markets etc don't come and the developers rake it in taking lots of public cash.

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Some seem astonished that towns are built around transport interchanges? Well it's only happened for thousands of years because that's the ideal place.

I don't think HS1 has failed. It may not be packed on every train but that was due to the gov placing ridiculously high fares on it. The other lines suffered to as they also had large increases attached, though don't cost as much.

As for Bluewater it's built in quarry. Ebbsfleet isn't. Slightly different geographically. Bluewater was purposefully built there as what else would go in a massive former chalk quarry?

As for flooding - It's not in a particularly bad area for it. And just improve the flood defences. Half of the UK would never have been built on if there were worries about flooding but they didn't build defences.

I have no doubt this will be implemented terribly but the complaints about building near a new train line is a bit tiresome. It will likely fail because of poor architecture standards in the UK, tiny houses, shite planning regarding parks etc, crazy prices and building so slowly amenties like decent shops, post office, markets etc don't come and the developers rake it in taking lots of public cash.

well the OS clearly designate it a 'chalk pit'

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I trust the new town will have its full compliment of schools, hospitals, GP surgeries, a university, that additional water, sewage, road, rail, and energy generation capacity is being built?

Thought not.

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I trust the new town will have its full compliment of schools, hospitals, GP surgeries, a university, that additional water, sewage, road, rail, and energy generation capacity is being built?

Thought not.

no need, its a garden city...schools,hospitals and GPs are all at the bottom of the garden, along with the bog.

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