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Isle Of Man Introduces A Toilet Tax

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-26271694

The so-called Isle of Man "toilet tax" has been approved, despite a 6,000 signature petition opposing the £50 charge (Rising to £300 in a few years....)

Manx politicians voted 24-9 in favour of its introduction following nearly two hours of debate in Tynwald on Wednesday.

Chris Thomas MHK, who voted against the move, said it was "wrong and unfair".

From 1 April, all Isle of Man households on mains sewerage will have to pay the annual £50 fee.

The Isle of Man Water and Sewerage Authority also said the charge would rise to £100 next year.

It claims the levy is needed following a "reduction in its revenue grant".

Chairman John Houghton MHK said there was "no alternative" to the charge.

Spokeswoman for the petition, Amy Burns, said: "If half the population had signed the petition, it would have gone through anyway.

"It seems the public's voice doesn't matter."

The Isle of Man's Chief Minister Allan Bell said "cuts have to be made".

A petition containing 6,314 signatures - 11% of the electorate - was presented to politicians ahead of the announcement of the Isle of Man budget on Tuesday.

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Sounds fair enough. I'd rather pay £300 than have a septic tank (that's not rhyming slang btw).

Private sewer systems cost about that in service charges IIRC.

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Thing is the Water Rates that already exist and pay for this historically are being added to by this tax across the board.

It doesn't take into account size of residence and number in the domicile.

So the guy living on his own in a 1 bed apartment, will be paying the same as a hotel with 50 rooms.

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Chairman John Houghton MHK said there was "no alternative" to the charge.

It would have been helpful if he'd clarified that seemingly glib statement and detailed that statement's justification.

Has there been any research looking into alternatives (such as cost cutting etc), what alternatives were looked into and whether there's actually an official report on the matter - rather than just looking for things to put taxes on.

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Thing is the Water Rates that already exist and pay for this historically are being added to by this tax across the board.

It doesn't take into account size of residence and number in the domicile.

So the guy living on his own in a 1 bed apartment, will be paying the same as a hotel with 50 rooms.

Depends if they're en suite.

It is absurd.

Alternatives

They could raise income tax by a penny and the top rate would be 21%.................

They could raise capital gains tax to 1%?

IHT to 1%?

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It would have been helpful if he'd clarified that seemingly glib statement and detailed that statement's justification.

Has there been any research looking into alternatives (such as cost cutting etc), what alternatives were looked into and whether there's actually an official report on the matter - rather than just looking for things to put taxes on.

Washington memorial

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Depends if they're en suite.

It is absurd.

Alternatives

They could raise income tax by a penny and the top rate would be 21%.................

They could raise capital gains tax to 1%?

IHT to 1%?

Or they could cut their costs a bit? Or charge a bit more for water?

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Washington memorial

From wiki:

Design

Progress towards a memorial finally began in 1832. That year, which marked the 100th anniversary of Washington's birth, a large group of concerned citizens formed the Washington National Monument Society. In 1836, after they had raised $28,000 in donations ($15,200,000 in 2011[16]), they announced a competition for the design of the memorial.[17]

On September 23, 1835, the board of managers of the society described their expectations:[18]

It is proposed that the contemplated monument shall be like him in whose honor it is to be constructed, unparalleled in the world, and commensurate with the gratitude, liberality, and patriotism of the people by whom it is to be erected ... [it] should blend stupendousness with elegance, and be of such magnitude and beauty as to be an object of pride to the American people, and of admiration to all who see it. Its material is intended to be wholly American, and to be of marble and granite brought from each state, that each state may participate in the glory of contributing material as well as in funds to its construction

At first your comment seemed a bit meaningless but no, thank you - that's extremely flattering and I'm glad you agree that it's not acceptable for the Chairman to just make the bald statement saying there was "no alternative" to the charge.

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What is interesting is that the population has gone from 60,000 in the 1980s to 85,000 now, with finance and e-gaming driving the economy, I have been shocked at the decimation of tourism in that time (changes in holiday habits). Much of Douglas prom has its hotels converted to apartments. TT weeks, they make up the shortfall by encouraging residents to take in bikers.

Beautiful place. Lots of building going on (flats) - expensive - but you do wonder what will happen if these big sectors crumble. Couldn't believe the amount of foreigners working their either. Personally I missed a trick by not moving over years ago.

With the increased population, you would think there would be more tax income? Though bigger population brings other pressures on resources.

MHKs will be scratching around for other ways to bring in revenue, like the 'toilet tax.'

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