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How Many People Does Manchester City Coucil Employ?

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http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/100008/work_jobs_training_and_advice/2338/working_for_the_council

Go on take a guess.

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Some 19,000 individuals work for the council in a wide variety of occupations, includingincluding social workers, building surveyors, teachers, catering assistants, architects, personnel advisors, policy officers, craft and manual operatives, solicitors, youth workers, finance officers, research assistants cleaners and web designers. Whatever the job, Manchester City council has the experts on its payroll. We are the largest employer in Manchester.

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And what services do they provide?

Years ago councils used to loads - water, gas.

These days, its mainly running around after scum and doing stuff the scum cannot be ar5ed to do.

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Add in health and education and nationalised banks.

Top 10 in Edinburgh

Employer Number of employees

NHS Lothian 19,890

City of Edinburgh Council 18,617

University of Edinburgh 12,227

Royal Bank of Scotland Group 8,368

Lloyds Banking Group (inc Scottish Widows) 7,500

Standard Life 5,259

The Scottish Government 3,913

Lothian and Borders Police 2,439

Tesco (inc Tesco Bank) 2,400

Royal Mail 2,257

So basically all public sector.

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Some 19,000 individuals work for the council in a wide variety of occupations, including social workers, building surveyors, teachers, catering assistants, architects, personnel advisors, policy officers, craft and manual operatives, solicitors, youth workers, finance officers, research assistants cleaners and web designers. Whatever the job, Manchester City council has the experts on its payroll. We are the largest employer in Manchester.

It's OK - they'll be taken over by Serco or Capita, still be paid for 100% from taxation, and you can then pretend they are private sector jobs.

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'An organisation is only as good as the people it employs - that's why Manchester City councils most valuable resource is its workforce. '

Yep. They keep voting for pork provider.

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Add in health and education and nationalised banks.

Top 10 in Edinburgh

Employer Number of employees

NHS Lothian 19,890

City of Edinburgh Council 18,617

University of Edinburgh 12,227

Royal Bank of Scotland Group 8,368

Lloyds Banking Group (inc Scottish Widows) 7,500

Standard Life 5,259

The Scottish Government 3,913

Lothian and Borders Police 2,439

Tesco (inc Tesco Bank) 2,400

Royal Mail 2,257

So basically all public sector.

It is fairly obvious that the main employers will be public sector in terms of single employers.

An NHS hospital requires thousands of staff to be employed by one employer. A thousand small businesses in a city will might only account for 3 staff each.

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Greater Manchester has a population of 2.19M though.

Where I live the Council, NHS Trust and HE are the biggest employers, after that its supermarkets.

What do you expect after the collapse of big manufacturing?

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Greater Manchester has a population of 2.19M though.

Where I live the Council, NHS Trust and HE are the biggest employers, after that its supermarkets.

What do you expect after the collapse of big manufacturing?

Machester council only represents about 400000 though...

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It would be astonishing if a single private sector company in a city centre employed 19,000 people unless perhaps it was RBS or HSBC in London.

19,000 doesn't sound much for a council in the 2nd largest City in the country, < 5% of population.

Doubt their wages are anywhere near those of RBS or HSBC.

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It would be astonishing if a single private sector company in a city centre employed 19,000 people unless perhaps it was RBS or HSBC in London.

19,000 doesn't sound much for a council in the 2nd largest City in the country, < 5% of population.

Doubt their wages are anywhere near those of RBS or HSBC.

It's only second largest if you include Greater Manchester so it's way more than 19K as you will have to include workers for Salford, Trafford,Tameside,Bury,Oldham councils etc. The populations for each council are listed below, approx 2.1m

http://www.agma.gov.uk/greater-manchester-prepared/contact-us/local-authorities2/

Edited by UnsureFTB

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You will probably find that nearly half of these are teachers - there are 100,000 kids in the Manchester city council area and it has the worst levels of child poverty in the UK. So that means more call on social care too!

Not defending it entirely - but the speculation is that there will be 40% job cuts for those public sector workers outside the NHS and schools over the next 5 years. So its hardly a job for life anymore.

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Does this include employees who work for sub-contractors providing council services? Some services like care support gets contracted out.

Won't include housing as they don't have any housing stock left. All gone to HA now.

Are binnies all contracted out? Grasscutting?

Edited by SarahBell

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http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/100008/work_jobs_training_and_advice/2338/working_for_the_council

I guessed 10,000. So very surprised to see it's 19,000. If they are the largets employer in Mnachester, that says it all. We have virtually no manufacturing base - tory and Labour mismanagement over 50 yrs.

...Government mismanagement possibly...but more to do with world competition ...manufacturing can be done better and cheaper elsewhere ... :rolleyes:

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You will probably find that nearly half of these are teachers - there are 100,000 kids in the Manchester city council area and it has the worst levels of child poverty in the UK. So that means more call on social care too!

Not defending it entirely - but the speculation is that there will be 40% job cuts for those public sector workers outside the NHS and schools over the next 5 years. So its hardly a job for life anymore.

Not disagreeing with you but do you have a source for the 40% figure? Sounds like an interesting read. Thanks! :)

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Its been obvious for a while now that in the future the only jobs will be public sector and retail.

Governments have encouraged jobs to be sent abroad and have even agreed to pick up the bill for the destruction it causes through benefits/tax credits and employing people in non-jobs in the public sector.

Strangely noone bothers to mention this on question time, all we hear about is 'growth' - another 1984 style buzzword where noone actually knows what it means but somehow has positive connotations and is therefore obviously good.

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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/14/public-sector-jobs-cuts-britain

See the link. This would have an impact on house prices. As private sector wages likely to be lower and or not convinced enough jobs can be created there.

Edit: I supose they could be doing the same work for private sector company (outsourced)

Edited by Ash4781

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Is there a list for every council in the UK?

I think Oldham employs 2897 people...

in 2008:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7624464.stm

The authority is Oldham's biggest employer with nearly 5,000 staff

Oldham's estimated population is 225,200 (2012).

http://www.oldham.gov.uk/info/200888/background_information/1262/oldham_statistics

In the 2010 Indices of Deprivation, Oldham was ranked as the 37th most deprived local authority (of 326). Oldham ranks 25th on concentration of deprivation, highlighting the relatively high levels of inequality within the borough.

Three areas in Oldham are in the 1% most deprived in England, with 18 in the 5% most deprived.

About half the population of Manchester

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester

Manchester (local /ˈmæntʃɪstə/)[4] is a city and metropolitan borough in North West England with an estimated population of 512,000.

And with a tiny % of staff.

Do we assume Oldham has out sourced more staff? Or that Manchester is just lousy with employees?

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