Si1 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 My own biases notwithstanding, for those who really don't like this govt, who's your most despised current tory minister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 That's like asking a parent of several children, which is their favourite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpewLabour Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 My own biases notwithstanding, for those who really don't like this govt, who's your most despised current tory minister? David Cameron. I'd quite like a real Conservative as PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappycocco Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Whats the alternative? I feel like these idiots are less likely to orchestrate a plan to have one nanny per household but still they're pretty left. Refusing to deport murderers and rapists because of their right to family life, thats some hardcore left wing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Whats the alternative? I feel like these idiots are less likely to orchestrate a plan to have one nanny per household but still they're pretty left. Refusing to deport murderers and rapists because of their right to family life, thats some hardcore left wing stuff. Hey on balance I support the current govt I'm just interested, from those who don't, who they dislike the most :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC1 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 That Nick Camerband guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splurge Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Grant Shapps Sayeeda Warsi Boris Johnson George Osborne and so on and so forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Grant Shapps Sayeeda Warsi Boris Johnson George Osborne and so on and so forth. No one going for Gove? I know a number of educated left wingers who despise the earth he walks on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtheman Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I wouldn't say that they're worthy of being despised although Osborne exudes a particularly misplaced arrogance that is particularly annoying (you kind of wonder where his belief that he can sneer at his peers emanates from, other than the fact he's from a wealthy family. It's not like the guy has achieved much or is revered internationally). My main gripe is that they're all fairly dim although they're fairly PR-savvy. Let's just say that if I had a maths or logic test, I wouldn't bet on any of the Tories to score high. This can be seen in a lot of their policies on which they constantly have to perform U-turns, quite often in cases where it would be sufficient to just use a bit of the grey matter beforehand, analyse ALL factors to realise quite easily that it's a bad idea. Bedroom tax anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainlessSteelCat Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Despise their policies and soundbites, not necessarily the person as it's hard to know how much they believe them. There's clearly some real nastiness behind the scenes though - watching Chloe Smith on Newsnight was like seeing a lamb being ripped to pieces. She should never have been sent out on a dirty job like that and it no doubt has set her career back five years or more. Not that I care too much. But you can imagine enjoying a quiet evening chatting with many Tories from history, and only a few from the left. Not sure that would be true nowadays of any party rep. I agree with the previous poster. The current range really do across as rather arrogant, unworldly and dim. Clearly not too thick though - they and their advisors have done a right number on Clegg and his crew - deflecting a lot of blame, while ensuring the LibDems get little credit for anything good in the world either. The tories must be loving this coalition stuff, you've got an inbuilt scapegoat who is nearly powerless to defend themselves. Not that I have any sympathy for Clegg et al either. If I had to choose somebody to vote off though - Pickles would be close to the top of the list. He resembles a mentally challenged pig in more ways than appearance alone. Edited February 5, 2014 by StainlessSteelCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Not sure I could pick a 'favourite' and I assume you mean amongst MPs only. My own MP is under the radar for most, not having a high profile Govt job, yet he is a compliant supporter of some of the policies I find the most idiotic (housing related). There are probably many more like him I have never heard of. They have little power of course, so perhaps the bigger hitters should get more criticism but the big boys can only carry out these policies with the compliance of many in the parliamentary party. Which in turn feeds down to the grassroots, sort of like a soldier 'only following orders'. Or there are people like the member for North Wiltshire, cheating on his wife as she was dying of cancer. There are just so many quality candidates that exceed the minimum requirements it would be remiss to let most of them off the hook by choosing just one. I think I might despise a nontrivial fraction of the Conservative party in parliament, their councilors and their rank and file members were I to sit down with them and have a serious talk about their views on many subjects. Same goes for Labour and Lib Dems btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Despise their policies and soundbites, not necessarily the person as it's hard to know how much they believe them. There's clearly some real nastiness behind the scenes though - watching Chloe Smith on Newsnight was like seeing a lamb being ripped to pieces. She should never have been sent out on a dirty job like that and it no doubt has set her career back five years or more. Not that I care too much. But you can imagine enjoying a quiet evening chatting with many Tories from history, and only a few from the left. Not sure that would be true nowadays of any party rep. I agree with the previous poster. The current range really do across as rather arrogant, unworldly and dim. Clearly not too thick though - they and their advisors have done a right number on Clegg and his crew - deflecting a lot of blame, while ensuring the LibDems get little credit for anything good in the world either. The tories must be loving this coalition stuff, you've got an inbuilt scapegoat who is nearly powerless to defend themselves. Not that I have any sympathy for Clegg et al either. If I had to choose somebody to vote off though - Pickles would be close to the top of the list. He resembles a mentally challenged pig in more ways than appearance alone. Isn't that the sort of trait that in itself makes you despise these people though? A total unprincipled goon who is prepared to step over their grandmother if it advances their standing within the party? Noone I consider a friend exhibits traits like that. The quality of your average MP is very low indeed, much lower than they would have you believe, and this is of course because parties do not want free thinking upstanding types, they want hardworking compliant drones who can lie convincingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 David Cameron. Tony Blair reborn. He's have been bombing Syria if Dubya was in the White House to support him rather than Mr Michelle Obama who spends most of his time being shouted at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Deflation Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 My own biases notwithstanding, for those who really don't like this govt, who's your most despised current tory minister? Gove. The rest might be running the country into the ground, but this guy's buggering up childhoods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Deflation Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 David Cameron. I'd quite like a real Conservative as PM Like Tony Blair maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Like Tony Blair maybe? I think you misunderstand mr blair. you are mixing up conservative with national socilaist. (actually I kid you not, look at most of his policies and they are very Mosely-esque.) as for dave "neville" cameron......... appeasement doesn't work dear boy....grow a pair. Edited February 12, 2014 by oracle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I have a special place just for William Hague. He would be the first 'pour encourager les autres' actually I think hague has matured with age.....not quite "west country farmhouse cheddar" yet, but puts in a reasonable showing nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 <br />Gove.<br /><br />The rest might be running the country into the ground, but this guy's buggering up childhoods.<br /><br /><br /><br />It's interesting someone finally said the G word. People are either unemotional about him or vociferously hate him, I think it's the trad socialist labour camp predominantly. Thanks for your candid reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little fish Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I'll take a Shapps please. That man is just a completely useless gentrified wide boy. Or Hunt? Or Gove? oh there's just so much choice... Keep, promote John Major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Politicians as cheeses would make a whole other thread. Done On off topic forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 IDS - claims he could live on fifty quid a week, but won't try. Claims off taxpayer for stuff like £39 bottle of wine. Claims £100,000 a year from the CAP for the farm that belongs to his wife's family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Well :( Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Gove is one of my favourites. Tim Yeo one of the worst. The little shit the speaker Bercow is a Tory you cant get worse than that? Or can you? Edited February 16, 2014 by Oh Well :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail the Tripod Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 [quote name=Oh Well ' timestamp='1392576019' post='1102469224] The little shit the speaker Bercow is a Tory you cant get worse than that? Or can you? His wife perhaps. Or if they have kids... The horror! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 this kunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Do they have to be members of the tory party or just members of the amorphous mass of political sameness that is condemlab? There are so many to choose from, it's like choosing between turds to eat for lunch. Just to give an answer let's say georgie osbourne(who reminds me of the blackadder character played by hugh laurie but less funny). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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