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cultural needs housing. What's that then?

http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/84366/custombuilt-homes-a-key-to-regeneration

Opportunities for residents interested in custom-build homes were promoted in the former HMR areas a year ago and interested residents formed CBW. The council will receive full market value for the land.

The development should begin this summer and could take around two years to complete.

Councillor Shoab Akhtar said: “It’s not just 37 homes, but 37 families, where the average sizes will be five or six people. Aspirational families will want to design their own homes, and their homes will be different to others we have built. They’re specific to their cultural needs.”

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cultural needs housing. What's that then?

http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/84366/custombuilt-homes-a-key-to-regeneration

Opportunities for residents interested in custom-build homes were promoted in the former HMR areas a year ago and interested residents formed CBW. The council will receive full market value for the land.

The development should begin this summer and could take around two years to complete.

Councillor Shoab Akhtar said: “It’s not just 37 homes, but 37 families, where the average sizes will be five or six people. Aspirational families will want to design their own homes, and their homes will be different to others we have built. They’re specific to their cultural needs.”

Councillor Shoab Akhtar said: “It’s not just 37 homes, but 37 families, where the average sizes will be five or six people. Aspirational families will want to design their own homes, and their homes will be different to others we have built. They’re specific to their cultural needs.”

A PC way of saying 'they're aimed at muslims?!

can't think why else they would refer to large families as 'a cultural' thing. Im pretty sure every culture has at least some large families.

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About 10 years ago i was working on a building site in London which consisted of about 10 3/4 bed townhouses build for by the local council.

And i believe every single one had an immigrant family of differing varieties lined up to move in.

Us working class lads who were then priced out failed to see the joys of cultural enrichment.

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Councillor Shoab Akhtar said: “It’s not just 37 homes, but 37 families, where the average sizes will be five or six people. Aspirational families will want to design their own homes, and their homes will be different to others we have built. They’re specific to their cultural needs.”

A PC way of saying 'they're aimed at muslims?!

can't think why else they would refer to large families as 'a cultural' thing. Im pretty sure every culture has at least some large families.

I would have loved a large family but I didn't because I realised I couldn't afford it! I sometimes wish I hadn't been so sensible now....

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http://committees.oldham.gov.uk/documents/s42893/Open%20-%20Cabinet%20report%20-%20Wereneth%20Custom%20Build%20-%2027%20Jan%202014%20-%20open%204.pdf

More info about it

Nothing stopping you getting a cheap house and renting it out, a ridiculous oversight.

Doing searches

The company set up to run it - director is also part of

https://www.duedil.com/company/07210454/iqra-capital-limited

Current Liabilities

392,760 GBP

Any amount owed by a company to other agents that must be paid within one year of the date on the balance sheet.

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The company set up to run it - director is also part of

https://www.duedil.com/company/07210454/iqra-capital-limited

Current Liabilities

392,760 GBP

Any amount owed by a company to other agents that must be paid within one year of the date on the balance sheet.

With one company dissolved in 2012.

http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/papia-begum-sarmin

Not sure why a company that was formed in 2010 is needed for such a project why not let the council issue plots individually

I bet if it was possible to dig deeper it would turn out to be lots of Pakistani family members in positions of power to help each other, Pakistanis have managed to bring corruption down to a lower level but whiteys cant get a look in.

A good idea no doubt corrupted.

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I'm not sure I understand this scheme.

Is there actually any subsidy involved?

Or are they paying the market price for a piece of land and paying to build the houses themselves?

EDIT are they to buy or rent?

Edited by oldsport

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If the council disclose the price paid for the land and then it matches the value of the land (including all acquisitions they made to create the parcel of land)

Then that's fine.

Oldham has a habit of buying things at 'makes value' and then refusing to disclose the sum paid (Roxy cinema)

Market value is what it would sell at n an open market.

A Normal developer can get 21 houses in an acre, this is 3.6 acres, so could be 70 houses. Instead it will be 37.

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Its not necessarily a lot of kids - in many Asian families it's not uncommon for a son to bring his wife to live with his parents, so that = 4 adults, for a start. Personally I think it'd be a nightmare for any length of time, but I guess it keeps expenses down. I have read of Asian families where they pool resources to buy a very large house for e.g. Grandparents, two married kids plus spouses, and all their kidlets.

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If the council disclose the price paid for the land and then it matches the value of the land (including all acquisitions they made to create the parcel of land)

Then that's fine.

Oldham has a habit of buying things at 'makes value' and then refusing to disclose the sum paid (Roxy cinema)

Market value is what it would sell at n an open market.

A Normal developer can get 21 houses in an acre, this is 3.6 acres, so could be 70 houses. Instead it will be 37.

The gardens certainly look bigger than the ones on new developments around here - someone was telling me recently that young people no longer want gardens!! - and that is why they build them so close together - and he seemed to believe it!

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With one company dissolved in 2012.

http://www.companydi...ia-begum-sarmin

Not sure why a company that was formed in 2010 is needed for such a project why not let the council issue plots individually

I bet if it was possible to dig deeper it would turn out to be lots of Pakistani family members in positions of power to help each other, Pakistanis have managed to bring corruption down to a lower level but whiteys cant get a look in.

A good idea no doubt corrupted.

You mean mixing corruption and socialism

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If the council disclose the price paid for the land and then it matches the value of the land (including all acquisitions they made to create the parcel of land)

Then that's fine.

Oldham has a habit of buying things at 'makes value' and then refusing to disclose the sum paid (Roxy cinema)

Market value is what it would sell at n an open market.

A Normal developer can get 21 houses in an acre, this is 3.6 acres, so could be 70 houses. Instead it will be 37.

I will ask on whatdotheyknow.com

As its Oldham it cant be much more then 30K a plot so lets say somewhere around £1.1 million.

Edit - I just done a Rightmove search in Oldham for land and isnt it strange how in poor areas development land is a plenty and building is sustainable ... there is more land with planning permission for sale in Oldham then the whole of Dorset and Hampshire.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION%5E1025&insId=1&sortType=6&displayPropertyType=land&numberOfPropertiesPerPage=50&radius=0.5&includeSSTC=true&_includeSSTC=on&googleAnalyticsChannel=buying

Edited by BananaMan

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https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/recent_land_sale#incoming-489671

I have asked for the price on this land and at first the request was denied, then all of a sudden they havent sold the land.

I will be asking for an internal review but any advice on what to ask them next is appreciated.

PS If anyone is interested in land councils in Dorset and Hampshire own there are very good maps of which they own that ive previously asked for. (not that it gets you very far.)

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https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/recent_land_sale#incoming-489671

I have asked for the price on this land and at first the request was denied, then all of a sudden they havent sold the land.

I will be asking for an internal review but any advice on what to ask them next is appreciated.

PS If anyone is interested in land councils in Dorset and Hampshire own there are very good maps of which they own that ive previously asked for. (not that it gets you very far.)

Wow that's really bizarre to have sold it and then not sold it.

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They want to invest in a rising market and this is not going to happen in Oldham, and maybe they have come to the conclusion that they will lose value.

http://www.rightmove...y-29783865.html

I was looking at zoopla and house prices in Oldham dont seem to be rising much and it would not surprise me if they actually went down over 3 years.

Edited by macbeth79

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Its not necessarily a lot of kids - in many Asian families it's not uncommon for a son to bring his wife to live with his parents, so that = 4 adults, for a start. Personally I think it'd be a nightmare for any length of time, but I guess it keeps expenses down. I have read of Asian families where they pool resources to buy a very large house for e.g. Grandparents, two married kids plus spouses, and all their kidlets.

Yes they tend to massively extend existing housing too. In some respects its a good thing as it free's up two or possible three houses (for each generation).

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http://www.chronic-oldham.co.uk/ might be interested in the story

It seems even if they have sold the land they wont be releasing the price.

I was biding my time to reply regarding getting an internal review, but i will ask now.

What kind of so called democracy is this when councils no longer tell the taxpayers when they're selling up their assets.

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It seems even if they have sold the land they wont be releasing the price.

I was biding my time to reply regarding getting an internal review, but i will ask now.

What kind of so called democracy is this when councils no longer tell the taxpayers when they're selling up their assets.

Oldham bought the Roxy as a going concern. The owner retired.

The council pulled the cinema down and it's been a patch of land empty ever since.

There are/were plans to put an electric car sale room on it.

They won't disclose the price they paid as it is "commercially sensitive".

Edited by SarahBell

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