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Disgraced Paul Flowers Won Co-Op Job Thanks To 'psychometric Tests' Results

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/disgraced-paul-flowers-won-coop-job-thanks-to-psychometric-tests-results-9090641.html

Paul Flowers — the Methodist minister filmed allegedly buying drugs — beat experienced bankers to the post of chairman of the Co-operative Bank because he scored highest on psychometric tests, it emerged today.

Asked by MPs on the Treasury Select Committee if he knew why Flowers had beaten him to the job, banking veteran Rodney Baker-Bates said: "I was told afterwards he did very well on the psychometric tests.”

Baker-Bates was made deputy chairman — along with former Prudential executive David Davies — to support Flowers, who had almost no banking experience. Baker-Bates had previously been chairman of Britannia Building Society, with which Co-op had merged.

He said his own interview for the job did not even cover banking: "It focused on my knowledge of the Co-operative group and movement. I don’t remember much discussion of my banking experience."

Davies said: "I have to say the psychometric testing did surprise me. Paul was a clear winner. When I looked at the scores I was concerned about a couple."

Was Baker-Bates in charge at the time of the Co-op bailing out the Britannia? However to be honest I think being a banker should automatically exclude you from running a bank.

All power to the psychometric tests...

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Well clearly not, given what happened to the Co-Op. May be better to stick to reading their tea leaves or analysing their handwriting.

.....or friends in high places? ;)

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.....or friends in high places? ;)

Presumably Psychometric testing really measures how psycho you are.

We all know there are too many psychopaths in senior positions - I personally believe companies need to weed them out as ultimately they destroy the company.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/disgraced-paul-flowers-won-coop-job-thanks-to-psychometric-tests-results-9090641.html

Was Baker-Bates in charge at the time of the Co-op bailing out the Britannia? However to be honest I think being a banker should automatically exclude you from running a bank.

All power to the psychometric tests...

I had honestly thought that these were fading in fashion - and were a fad that peaked some time ago. A particular bug bear of mine is all that Belbin type b*****ks. The sort where one is evaluated on how rounded a person is based on whether they express a preference for blue squares or yellow triangles or other such c**p.

I was once shortlisted for a job interview, with only two others, only to be told just beforehand that part of the interview process would involve such testing. I immediately withdrew my application - to the surprise of the head of the selection panel.

I politely thanked her for my being shortlisted and reassured her that they would no doubt pick someone they liked - but told her that I didn't think much of any organisation that places value/merit/usefulness in such tests - and that it spoke volumes about the sort of place it would be to work in.

The company went bust about 3 years later! :D

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I had honestly thought that these were fading in fashion - and were a fad that peaked some time ago. A particular bug bear of mine is all that Belbin type b*****ks. The sort where one is evaluated on how rounded a person is based on whether they express a preference for blue squares or yellow triangles or other such c**p.

I was once shortlisted for a job interview, with only two others, only to be told just beforehand that part of the interview process would involve such testing. I immediately withdrew my application - to the surprise of the head of the selection panel.

I politely thanked her for my being shortlisted and reassured her that they would no doubt pick someone they liked - but told her that I didn't think much of any organisation that places value/merit/usefulness in such tests - and that it spoke volumes about the sort of place it would be to work in.

The company went bust about 3 years later! :D

frankly they would have had more success consulting mystic meg :P

(and I actually DO think astrology works......just not the sort of crap she spouts out...snake oil at it's best)

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Tosh. Flowers got the job because he was well connected at the top of the Co-op group and in political circles. The tests were just an excuse to ensure their man got the job.

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Psychometric tests are very easy to pilot. Depending on what the job description requires, you can target your answers to come out either as Hitler or Jesus or anything in between.

They are for lazy HR people and for managers who don't have the time to do a good old get-together and get-to-know.

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Tosh. Flowers got the job because he was well connected at the top of the Co-op group and in political circles. The tests were just an excuse to ensure their man got the job.

yes I read the article as Flowes already was going to get the job before the interview. They interviewed the other guy but asked him nothing about banking so didn't discuss the job role?

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frankly they would have had more success consulting mystic meg :P

(and I actually DO think astrology works......just not the sort of crap she spouts out...snake oil at it's best)

thinking about train travel, would you prefer to be :

A the driver

B the guard

C a passenger

D a spotter on the platform

This was the type of question I remember having to answer..

I wonder what each answer would tell about the person....pretty obvious?...or is there some underlying meaning?

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thinking about train travel, would you prefer to be :

A the driver

B the guard

C a passenger

D a spotter on the platform

This was the type of question I remember having to answer..

I wonder what each answer would tell about the person....pretty obvious?...or is there some underlying meaning?

All of the answers are taking into consideration not just one, in order to weed out attempts to fix the test, I vaguely recall. I haven't put it very well I know, but you can't just take a single question.

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All of the answers are taking into consideration not just one, in order to weed out attempts to fix the test, I vaguely recall. I haven't put it very well I know, but you can't just take a single question.

Thats absolutely right, and I also recall the same question being asked several times with slight variation in wording...

you enjoy driving the train?

you are driving the train? do you feel in control?

you are a passenger on the train..do you feel out of control?

I think the test I did had 150 or so questions.

I also know that there were two sets of results...one for me, and one for the person paying for the test....As it was a fellow Director doing this stuff..I saw both...

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But for the narrowest of squeaks, might one reasonably have expected Mr Flowers to be on the receiving end of an ennoblement by now?

Had that happened, he would now be sitting alongside

- Matt Ridley, a journalist, was Chair of Northern Rock when it went pop (5th Viscount Ridley)

- Stephen Green, the former HSBC Chairman from the time of the bank's major money laundering scandal (Baron Green of Hurstpierpoint)

- Dennis Stevenson, the former HBOS Chairman from the time of it needing to be rescued by Lloyds (Baron Stevenson of Coddenham)

in the House of Lords...

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But for the narrowest of squeaks, might one reasonably have expected Mr Flowers to be on the receiving end of an ennoblement by now?

Had that happened, he would now be sitting alongside

- Matt Ridley, a journalist, was Chair of Northern Rock when it went pop (5th Viscount Ridley)

- Stephen Green, the former HSBC Chairman from the time of the bank's major money laundering scandal (Baron Green of Hurstpierpoint)

- Dennis Stevenson, the former HBOS Chairman from the time of it needing to be rescued by Lloyds (Baron Stevenson of Coddenham)

in the House of Lords...

are you talking to ME?

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not specifically, my point is open to consideration by all drivers, guards, passengers and spotters

I was referring to the great speech from Robert De Niro in the film Goodfellas, in relation to the characters you named in your House of Lords posting.

My Bad.

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I was referring to the great speech from Robert De Niro in the film Goodfellas, in relation to the characters you named in your House of Lords posting.

My Bad.

if I had seen the film, I might have got it!

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if I had seen the film, I might have got it!

It appears he had those lines in Taxi Driver...not Goodfellas....not going well today.:(

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