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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2543613/Jobless-Why-not-work-Costa-coffee-Employment-ministers-message-young.html

Esther McVey tells young they must to start at bottom and work way up

Claims British youth less prepared for world of work than foreign migrants

941,000 people aged 16-24 unemployed - 282,000 for more than a year

Echoes of Norman Tebbit 'on your bike' slogan to workless

Young people should be prepared to take lowly jobs in coffee shops if they want to get on in life, the employment minister has said.

Esther McVey said jobseekers need reminding that they have to start at the bottom and work their way up, rather than expecting to walk into their dream job.

In an interview with the Mail, she admitted that young Britons are less prepared for the world of work than foreign migrants and need to learn the basics, such as turning up on time.

Hmmm not wanting to turn up on time, don't want to work, clearly the young want to be MP's or work in the house of lords.

And as many young Britons are now spending £27k over 3 years not to appear on the unemployment stats it's little wonder that when it comes to it some aren't prepared to take a minimum wage job.

You perhaps may have to consider you perhaps can't afford the rent on a minimum wage job... But still when you've got expenses none of this matters.

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Hmmm not wanting to turn up on time, don't want to work, clearly the young want to be MP's or work in the house of lords.

And as many young Britons are now spending £27k over 3 years not to appear on the unemployment stats it's little wonder that when it comes to it some aren't prepared to take a minimum wage job.

You perhaps may have to consider you perhaps can't afford the rent on a minimum wage job... But still when you've got expenses none of this matters.

Stuff that. All I care about is would CCC?

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Agree re Esther McVey and other MPs of her ilk. I can't stand the woman.

However, it is nice to be selective when someone else is footing the bill. If the unemployed want to refuse work, that is fine, provided they also refuse to claim unemployment benefit. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking an interim job until a better opportunity is available.

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Esther McVey's first job after university was working for her family's company. Just another big mouth telling other people they have to do something they never did themselves.

Indeed.. you have to wonder how many of our executive class actually worked their way up from the bottom.

Let's face it.. a year of working in McJobs after graduating and suddenly you are competing with fresh graduates. How exactly does that help?

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Young people should start their own political party,. take power and actually sort out the mess the country is facing.

Unfortunately, the country is full of old people who will vote down any Young Person's Party. The only option they have is to use the energy they have to leave the country which forces politicians to review their policies. That's what immigrants are...young people looking for a chance to succeed.

I agree that young people have been molly coddled in the country but they have been bred to not think for themselves and believe that the system their elders have created actually works. They have no idea they are actually exploited for gain by the older community at every opportunity - from selling them toys and mcdonalds to pushing them into university, few want to break away from the norm as herd mentality from the 1980s has pushed people into the same cycle. Since it worked in the debt and inflation ridden 80s it must work now!

The debt (i.e future income) that the elites and professional class are living off is getting volatile and may just collapse the whole pyramid scheme if their is sudden uprising anger from the youth. Immigration has lead to a lower lifestyle for young people. Immigration works for the elite as the immigrants are desperate to work for basic necessities, happy to live 3 to a room; they don't have a culture of using their free time to purse recreational activities (how many immigrants go to national trust sites or have enough money to eat out in restaurants). They are basically just surviving. That is what the young are competing against, after being told that they are the smartest generation with the best prospects and can do anything....no wonder they are baffled.

Their only option is to leave behind everyone and thing they know and like "hot money" move to an area that offers them more. Obviously this takes much longer to happen than capital moving across borders but when it does it will be a massive irreversible change for a generation.

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So Esther, unlike you young people today start out by taking on £27k of debt to get a watered down degree, and yet you still think they have set their sights too high.

How much lower down should they be starting Esther?

Edited by Caveat Mortgagor

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So Esther, unlike you young people today have to take on £27k of debt to get a watered down degree, and yet you still think they have set their sights too high.

How much lower would make you happy Esther?

£27K + interest of extra taxation, not debt. If it were debt you could declare yourself bankrupt and clear it.

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Indeed.. you have to wonder how many of our executive class actually worked their way up from the bottom.

Let's face it.. a year of working in McJobs after graduating and suddenly you are competing with fresh graduates. How exactly does that help?

There appears to be a contradiction in your comments.

On the one hand you say critically "how many of our executive class actually worked their way up from the bottom". Then you appear to support those who will not take a job at the bottom.

Whether employed in MCJobs or unemployed if you have not found graduate appropriate employment by the time of the next graduation you will be competing!

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Ffs out of touch

A Costa coffee job is pretty good, chances for promotion, plenty of daylight, town centre location etc

As others have said it can be hard to get your foot in the door on this one

No, bottom rung is vegetable picking and office/factory temp work

Stupid woman

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Asked if they should be prepared to take ‘entry-level jobs’, she said: ‘Absolutely. You could be working at Costa. But in a couple of years’ time you might say, “I’d like to manage the area” or might even want to run a hotel in Dubai.’

All those former coffee shop servers who ended up managing a hotel in Dubai after TWO YEARS on the job

Because, mind you, those opportunities exist if you don't have connections

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Ffs out of touch

A Costa coffee job is pretty good, chances for promotion, plenty of daylight, town centre location etc

As others have said it can be hard to get your foot in the door on this one

No, bottom rung is vegetable picking and office/factory temp work

Stupid woman

I'd say there are rungs below vegetable picking, at least that's paid. 100% commisson drumming up charity donations as seen on Benefits Street (no donations, no pay), unpaid "volunteering" jobs or internships where you're basically working for free so you have something on the CV. It's no longer certain that unskilled UK workers will be given money in exchange for their work.

Edited by Dorkins

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I'd say there are rungs below vegetable picking, at least that's paid. 100% commisson drumming up charity donations as seen on Benefits Street, unpaid "volunteering" jobs where you're basically working for free so you have something on the CV. It's no longer certain that unskilled UK workers will be given money in exchange for their work.

Fair point

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Interview with the mail is basically electioneering. Targeting swing votes, shoring up traditional boomer right wing demographic that reads this shite.

More of the governments propaganda, saying kids are feckless, older boomer voters are hardworking financial wizards and immigrants are essential.

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There appears to be a contradiction in your comments.

On the one hand you say critically "how many of our executive class actually worked their way up from the bottom". Then you appear to support those who will not take a job at the bottom.

Whether employed in MCJobs or unemployed if you have not found graduate appropriate employment by the time of the next graduation you will be competing!

Not really. They are different statements, really. Although it may be possible to find people who have worked their way to the top, I would suggest that the vast majority of such people will have had contacts or parental help to start at the middle and quickly move up.

As far as taking McJobs goes, if you are working 40 hours a week in a fairly stressful job, you will have less time to spend applying for the jobs you want, preparing for interviews, doing work online (depends what the career is..) or whatever; you can very quickly end up out of touch. It's just part of the way that the playing field is tilted further and further. Plus, of course, as Dorkins said, the bottom rung in 'desirable' occupations nowadays is unpaid.

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Interview with the mail is basically electioneering. Targeting swing votes, shoring up traditional boomer right wing demographic that reads this shite.

More of the governments propaganda, saying kids are feckless, older boomer voters are hardworking financial wizards and immigrants are essential.

Wirral West constituency is #49 on Labour's target list(of 106 seats) for 2015:

http://labourlist.org/2013/01/labours-106-battleground-target-seats-for-2015/

If Labour are to get close to forming a Govt, this seat will almost certainly have to be taken.

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Wirral West constituency is #49 on Labour's target list(of 106 seats) for 2015:

http://labourlist.org/2013/01/labours-106-battleground-target-seats-for-2015/

If Labour are to get close to forming a Govt, this seat will almost certainly have to be taken.

Interesting that the conservative vote was basically the same in 2005 and 2010, just a few thousand Labour voters staying home..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirral_West_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

(Or this is boundary changes..hard to tell)

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Ffs out of touch

A Costa coffee job is pretty good, chances for promotion, plenty of daylight, town centre location etc

As others have said it can be hard to get your foot in the door on this one

No, bottom rung is vegetable picking and office/factory temp work

Stupid woman

Impressive restraint.

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I would be upset at her comments if I were Costa Coffee.

You actually need to be pretty switched on, keen and hard working to work successfully in one of these kinds of establishments.

It's a PR disaster on many levels.

She really doesn't deserve to preserve her expense account keep if she's quoted correctly.

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