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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/20/first-motorway-pub-temptation-drivers-wetherspoon-m40-services

England's first motorway service station pub will open on Tuesday, prompting a storm of criticism from road safety and health campaigners who have warned that it will encourage drink-driving.

The two-storey premises, called the Hope and Champion and operated by the JD Wetherspoon chain, is located at services next to junction two of the M40 near Beaconsfield in Buckinghamshire. It will be open from 4am until 1am seven days a week, and be licensed from 9am. The development, which cost £1.2m, will create 120 new jobs.

The road safety charity Brake said it was disappointed that Wetherspoon's had pressed ahead with the plans – and is planning more outlets – after earlier warnings against it on safety grounds. Brake spokesman Richard Coteau said: "The opening of a pub on a motorway is a serious concern, presenting a potentially deadly temptation to drivers. Drink-driving remains one of the biggest killers on our roads, causing devastation to families and communities every day.

"It is vitally important that messages about the dangers of drink-driving are as strong and obvious as possible, so drivers know it's not okay to stop off for a quick drink on their way home. Our advice is not to have a drop if you are driving."

Surely with this logic all pubs in view of the main road should be banned? What's the difference having a pub on a motorway service station to having a pub on a main road?

Not everyone using a motorway station is driving.

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French manage alright

France: 6.4 traffic fatalities per 100,000 people per year.

UK: 2.75 traffic fatalities per 100,000 people per year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Mind you, most places in Africa seem to be up in the 20-30 range and I don't think there's lots of Wetherspoon's there ...

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Simple way to deal with the drink-driving risk: have a tollbooth type setup at the exit to the services, at which every driver leaving is breathalysed, with Wetherspoons being required to pay for it as a condition of their licence.

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Simple way to deal with the drink-driving risk: have a tollbooth type setup at the exit to the services, at which every driver leaving is breathalysed, with Wetherspoons being required to pay for it as a condition of their licence.

That definitely sounds like the kind of thing ordinary people accused of no crime should be subjected to in a free country.

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Was in moon Under the water last week, early evening.

Most people were having a meal and a soft drink.

fastest pub meal I've had for ages. Probably fastest meal out.

Was hot, tasty and then we had a couple of pints.

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That definitely sounds like the kind of thing ordinary people accused of no crime should be subjected to in a free country.

By that logic you should also get rid of all security checkpoints at airports, too, because ordinary people accused of no crime should not be subjected to them in a free country. But they are not involuntarily subjected to them, because no-one is forced to travel by air.

No-one is forced to go into that motorway service station. If you simply breathalysed every driver coming out of it, the same would apply. No-one could claim that they're being victimised, because every driver who chose to use it would, in doing so, agree to be breathalysed. Anyone who has a problem with that can simply avoid going there altogether. Such a system would also address the fears of road safety campaigners, because no-one would be able to drive out of there while over the limit (well, I guess that if you bolted half a bottle of vodka and then dashed straight out before it had percolated through into your bloodstream you might just get away with it, but I doubt if that's a realisitic likelihood).

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Surely with this logic all pubs in view of the main road should be banned? What's the difference having a pub on a motorway service station to having a pub on a main road?

Not everyone using a motorway station is driving.

Motorway service stations aren't known for their close proximity to public transport, or residential areas.

It's really that simple.

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That would be quite a drive for me, just to get a good breakfast! Motorway service areas have been conspicuously alcohol free for as long as I can remember. Is there a change in the law?

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By that logic you should also get rid of all security checkpoints at airports, too, because ordinary people accused of no crime should not be subjected to them in a free country. But they are not involuntarily subjected to them, because no-one is forced to travel by air.

No-one is forced to go into that motorway service station. If you simply breathalysed every driver coming out of it, the same would apply. No-one could claim that they're being victimised, because every driver who chose to use it would, in doing so, agree to be breathalysed. Anyone who has a problem with that can simply avoid going there altogether. Such a system would also address the fears of road safety campaigners, because no-one would be able to drive out of there while over the limit (well, I guess that if you bolted half a bottle of vodka and then dashed straight out before it had percolated through into your bloodstream you might just get away with it, but I doubt if that's a realisitic likelihood).

And by your logic we should set up breathalyser checkpoints on every motorway onramp, or maybe at the end of every residential street. After all, nobody is forced to travel by car, and there are plenty of ways to get alcohol in your bloodstream that don't involve a service station Wetherspoons.

Security always has to be a balance between safety and the freedom to go about your day without being hassled by the authorities, and a line has to be drawn somewhere. In my opinion airport security is on one side of that line and breathalyser checkpoints would be on the other. Other opinions are available.

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....we should all know now that money/taxes comes before common sense.....while we are at it lets have a motorway bookies, a motorway lap dancing club, a brown cafe, a casino and a brothel, high parking charges with wheel clamps....and plenty of people to breathalise on the exit slipway to the motorway. ;)

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....we should all know now that money/taxes comes before common sense.....while we are at it lets have a motorway bookies, a motorway lap dancing club, a brown cafe, a casino and a brothel, high parking charges with wheel clamps....and plenty of people to breathalise on the exit slipway to the motorway. ;)

Motorway lap dancing club sounds OK to break up those long drives!

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Wetherspoons are pretty good at keeping to a national pricing structure, including their flagship locations. Trent Bridge Inn, Whitehall and Tower Bridge are three locations I use and prices are half what you would expect for the locality. If nothing else they may stick to the same pricing structure at the normally overpriced service station.

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Wetherspoons are pretty good at keeping to a national pricing structure, including their flagship locations. Trent Bridge Inn, Whitehall and Tower Bridge are three locations I use and prices are half what you would expect for the locality. If nothing else they may stick to the same pricing structure at the normally overpriced service station.

Hats off to Wetherspoons for selling a good value pint, with some decent grub!

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Hardly worth closing for that short a time!

Reminds me of a hostel I stayed at in Budapest years ago, it had a 24 hour bar, and they closed in for 20 - 30 minutes a day, just long enough for the local cleaner to empty ashtrays and do a token wipe, then it was "orders please guys and girls" ( In Hungarian of course)

To my mind the only way a driver should be using a motorway pub is if he/she is parking for the night and crashing out in one of the nearby hotels, the danger I suppose is ending up on a bender, but the hotel would have a bar anyway so it is kind of a non story?

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Motorway lap dancing club sounds OK to break up those long drives!

I agree, this sounds like a great business idea (surely truckers and travelling salesmen would love it), I'm surprised nobody set up a motorway lap dancing club yet.

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I agree, this sounds like a great business idea (surely truckers and travelling salesmen would love it), I'm surprised nobody set up a motorway lap dancing club yet.

The prostitutes at truck stops would object.

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