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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/453380/Broke-councils-beg-for-help-with-roads

Raging floods and £10.5billion slashed from council highway coffers have left the country’s already crumbling roads in desperate need of repairs.

Hard-up authorities last night pleaded for urgent funds to help them overhaul miles of roads badly damaged by torrential rain, overflowing rivers and powerful tidal surges.

RAC spokesman Simon Williams said one of its patrols in Gloucestershire had been called out to deal with seven vehicles damaged by a submerged pothole last week. He said: “Councils are under budget pressure and doing their best. We saw a massive increase in vehicles damaged by potholes last year and it could reach epidemic ­levels after these floods.”

With serious cold weather yet to hit the country, there are fears that pock-marked road surfaces will develop dangerous craters later in the winter.

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In North Norfolk, where the busy A149 road was flooded by a sea surge, leaving a vast area of one of the country’s most dramatic coastal landscapes under several feet of water, the district council faces a £1.4million shortfall in what it can claim from insurers and what it will have to spend.

Has the council under insured the roads or is it impossible to get full insurance cover for the repairs?

At least we've got a world class transport network.

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FFS!

Have they seen how expensive car tax is these days?

So much money going on paying these council idiots salaries, none left for the services they're supposed to provide.

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It's not Car Tax, or Road Tax anymore, they've renamed it 'Vehicle Excise Duty' so that they don't feel obligated to spend it on anything to do with the roads. It used to be ring-fenced for roads, but (sometime in the 30s) it was nicked and went into the 'general taxation' pot so that it could be squandered.

You would think that with VED and the massive amount of duty and VAT on fuel, and VAT on new cars they could fix a few poxy roads? A few times this summer I've been bounced out of my saddle on the motorbike, or got my front wheel caught in a centreline rut on a corner - I wonder how many people have died as a result of poorly maintained roads?

Indeed, all road users can justifiably grumble about this but bikers(motorized or not) have much more to lose, it must be terrifying.

I'm not sure I agree with ring-fenced taxation, but that said roads should be properly maintained. It's too easy to cut spending as they don't disintegrate immediately. But a few holes that go unrepaired for a couple of years makes it much more likely for the rest to be washed or knocked out.

Add in the penchant for ever bigger alloys and lower profile tyres, and we've a recipe for GDP creation.

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Are their wages and pensions being protected at the expense of the essential services that the public are forced to pay for ?

Surely It should be cuts first, beg second.

The councils have lost sight of their purpose and need brought down a peg or 50.

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Are their wages and pensions being protected at the expense of the essential services that the public are forced to pay for ?

Surely It should be cuts first, beg second.

The councils have lost sight of their purpose and need brought down a peg or 50.

Every government in history fails for the same reason. They give away to many benefits to win short term popularity. Now, with council taxes having to pay the equivalent of one worker and two retirees for every person employed they will collapse under their own unpopularity as the bills grow for less and less services. Its just the same all the time, we learn nothing because you can always sell the public dreams. With no ability to borrow in local government the cracks will start appearing here, national government will eventually bail them out with borrowed fund, until the debt markets react. For now, no one wants the piper to stop playing as it leads to excessive losses. Once the losses have been passed to pension funds and stupid investors the tides will change and banks will go after governments to maintain their power and prevent laws to constrain their lending.

I must stress this isn't a conspiracy its just what happens within in human groups.

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Every government in history fails for the same reason. They give away to many benefits to win short term popularity. Now, with council taxes having to pay the equivalent of one worker and two retirees for every person employed they will collapse under their own unpopularity as the bills grow for less and less services. Its just the same all the time, we learn nothing because you can always sell the public dreams. With no ability to borrow in local government the cracks will start appearing here, national government will eventually bail them out with borrowed fund, until the debt markets react. For now, no one wants the piper to stop playing as it leads to excessive losses. Once the losses have been passed to pension funds and stupid investors the tides will change and banks will go after governments to maintain their power and prevent laws to constrain their lending.

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Why are they broke?

Interest free loans to people to pay their mortgages, using millions underwriting potential losses to banks via FTB mortgage lending schemes, of the £22bn collected in council tax almost £6bn now goes on town hall pensions.

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Perhaps they should turn all the roads into car parks, patrolled 24-7 by parking wardens. Extra revenue plus more vital council jobs. Win-win!

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I offered East Dorset council 70K for a small plot of land in an average housing estate to build a 90m2 house, they flatly rejected this so quite clearly are rolling in money.

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It's the Big Issue Council Economy.

So much money spent painting lines on the roads along with new traffic lights everywhere, more and more signs and street furniture, doubling up on speed signs with extra electronic ones. More money for parking restrictions. New roads all over the place but on some roads last year's potholes still unfilled. More road humps than roads.

This year the gritters have been out at least twice (going to be the worst winter in history) and hardly a snowflake or a bit of frost yet to be seen. A complete waste.

Now they're begging for money.

Then there's exorbitant executive and managerial wages (and pensions) for more craziness spending other people's money.

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Can someone more technologically inclined than me produce a quick a4 poster that basically says:

Are your roads traffic free? Is crime low? Is your high street thriving? Do you encounter potholes? Are your streets clean?

Then why are services cut to fund schemes such as help to buy?

Something that can go on Twitter and become a little bit viral. The idiots don't read reasoned articles or think logically, but they do vote. The only way to win this is to make easy to grasp statements go viral.

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that the AA and/or the RAC were supporting motorists in taking councils to court for damages when their cars are damaged by potholes. Has a law been passed to end this? If not, surely these councils will pay more if they leave their roads unrepaired than if they fix them.

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Every government in history fails for the same reason. They give away to many benefits to win short term popularity...

Yes all governments. Except the Russian and French Monarchies, The German Nazi Government, Saxon Monarchy of England, the Aztec Kings, Facist Spain, the French Monarchy, and Cromwell's protectorate, but apart from that, all governments.

Oh, and the Thatcher government in 1990. And the Major government in 1997. And the Churchill Government in 1945.

Oh and the king of Mordor who was killed by some trees or something, and that evil rabbit from watership down who got killed by a dog I think.

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30th October this council cutting 201 jobs

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/201-job-cuts-kirklees-council-6253544

31st October the same council handing out interest free loans up to £15,000 for people to pay mortgages i.e. keep their banks in clover instead of them handling a bad debt and perhaps giving a payment holiday etc.

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/kirklees-council-offers-emergency-loans-6257399

Could a £15k interest free loan instead keep someone in a council job?

The more jobs they cut, the more unemployed there are and the more people will be unable to pay their mortgages....

Who voted for councils to be able to give money to banks?

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/453380/Broke-councils-beg-for-help-with-roads

Has the council under insured the roads or is it impossible to get full insurance cover for the repairs?

At least we've got a world class transport network.

Insurance. Do you mean the sovereign standing behind a local council? It's not the weather it is chronic under investment! Where I am they seem to have resurfaced the roads with cheese with last years' repairs opening up again.

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