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Oxford City Council has found that the abandoned dog racing track within a couple miles of the city centre of the least affordable city in the UK is a "heritage asset", and therefore cannot be used to build 220 new homes.

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The availability of brownfield sites for housebuilding is a complete myth. The planning authorities will always come up with some sort of excuse as to why an abandoned railway siding or burnt pub can't possibly be redeveloped into housing.

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Just briefly read through that report - it looks like a disgraceful decision. No material objections just some NIMBYism in background.

Brownfield sites should need a much lower level of approval if affordable housing is involved - and when it's a dog track or similar that must have had significant traffic levels there should be no possible reason for approval to be denied.

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to play devil's advocate, I'm guessing that part of the reason for preservation is that current planning allows almost zero possibility of a replacement track in future if it is deemed viable.

Besides, greenfield is much cheaper to build on.

"Protect our heritage: build on grass"

Edited by The B.L.T.

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Oxford City Council has found that the abandoned dog racing track within a couple miles of the city centre of the least affordable city in the UK is a "heritage asset", and therefore cannot be used to build 220 new homes.

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The availability of brownfield sites for housebuilding is a complete myth. The planning authorities will always come up with some sort of excuse as to why an abandoned railway siding or burnt pub can't possibly be redeveloped into housing.

Location info..

Right next to the Mini plant. Quite a few fields in the area that would no doubt be impossible to build on ('We should build on brownfield sites first!')

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Oxford City Council is completely dominated by Labour with 29 councillors versus 13 Lib Dems and 6 others.

The senior member of the Labour group is the fellow sat third from the left and the senior Lib Dem is second from the left in this photo:

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I've been to Oxford a few times and the centre is very pretty but very congested, but the rest of the place is a bit of a dump and I've never met ruder people.

If the greyhound stadium is so important to these morons then why didn't enough of them go and spend money watching races?

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What seems more disgusting to me is that they planned to build 220 homes on the site which as a rough estimate looks to be more than 2.5 times the density of the housing estate next to it.

I bet they'd be more than double the price of the houses next door as well. :angry:

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The current floods have fired up the Oxford NIMBYs:

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Wolvercote Neighbourhood Forum chairman John Bleach said: “Everybody knows that there is a risk these developments could make matters worse.

“Flooding is an important issue in relation to these two developments, particularly the paper mill site.

“If water isn’t able to drain away from the hard surfaces which are created then it has got to go somewhere. This is one of our chief concerns.”

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Just look at the evil NIMBY scum.

The argument for keeping the place is pretty flimsy, if the planning system was fit for purpose they could let it go safe in the knowledge they could get another one sometime.

I guess the 'heritage' line allows a getround of the Local Plan.

If you have pursuits that involve lots of space, and they were not popular by the 1960s, you can forget it.

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What seems more disgusting to me is that they planned to build 220 homes on the site which as a rough estimate looks to be more than 2.5 times the density of the housing estate next to it.

I bet they'd be more than double the price of the houses next door as well. :angry:

That estate is Blackbird Leys - created in 1990 and one of the largest council estates in Europe, so it's not exactly top notch housing either.

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That estate is Blackbird Leys - created in 1990 and one of the largest council estates in Europe, so it's not exactly top notch housing either.

It is a bit of a dump, but then so is most of the rest of Oxford.

The truly tragic thing about all this is that it's nationally important that Oxford get more housing. Oxford and Cambridge should be powering the UK economy like Silicon Valley or Boston do in the USA, but the areas around UK universities have been turned into parochial, no development zones by the NIMBYs.

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It is a bit of a dump, but then so is most of the rest of Oxford.

The truly tragic thing about all this is that it's nationally important that Oxford get more housing. Oxford and Cambridge should be powering the UK economy like Silicon Valley or Boston do in the USA, but the areas around UK universities have been turned into parochial, no development zones by the NIMBYs.

Town vs Gown innit

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You used to be able to go to oxford dog track on a friday night.

You could get food, a drink and a race program for a fiver. I won £35 once betting on a fat mottled black and white dog.

Oxfordshire is nimbyism on steroids.

The nimby contingent are probably too busy baling out their houses at the moment to worry about any other stuff.

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Qualifies for 'SAD FACE Nimby boomer of the Day' methinks. HPC should offer a prize

He pops up in this story opposing the same development last year. Then, the objections were all about traffic. Now it's flooding of course.

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The paper mill closed in 98, and was demolished in 2004. The Uni owns the site and originally wanted to build 600 homes for its staff. This was downgraded to 200 homes for staff, and then less than 200 homes for anyone.

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The university unveiled its plans for Wolvercote in late 2005. It said the scheme was to address a housing shortage that made it increasingly difficult to attract and retain staff.

But the university's 'self help' plan was complicated by Oxford city council's housing policy, demanding that at lest half of all new dwellings built in the city should be used for social housing.

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He pops up in this story opposing the same development last year. Then, the objections were all about traffic. Now it's flooding of course.

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The paper mill closed in 98, and was demolished in 2004. The Uni owns the site and originally wanted to build 600 homes for its staff. This was downgraded to 200 homes for staff, and then less than 200 homes for anyone.

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Yes we have the Brownfield NIMBY's oooop North too. They opposed development of the old Blackley brick works. Now this is built on the side of a hill on its hey day used to belch smoke and had an elevated cable car track to bring up supplies and take away bricks.

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/blackley-residents-oppose-former-brickworkss-4957142

A group spokesman said: “Blackley is a lovely hamlet of 28 stone-built houses in a beautiful area of green belt and the development that has been proposed is so out of keeping with everything in the area that it will have a huge harmful impact on the character of Blackley and the surrounding green belt area.’’

Thankfully they lost and housing is going ahead I believe. NIMBY's say 'build on brownfield' but its a lie. They oppose everything, and without reason.

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