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Just has a man from the Council come round to service my boiler.

Got chatting about boiler sizes and he was telling me he would put a 28 kwh boiler 'in his properties' not a 32 which I have in my small flat.

He has quite a portfolio, including a 'detached property.'

I need to become a BTL as I'm missing out.

1. Council worker (tick)

2. BTL porfolio (tick)

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Just has a man from the Council come round to service my boiler.

Got chatting about boiler sizes and he was telling me he would put a 28 kwh boiler 'in his properties' not a 32 which I have in my small flat.

He has quite a portfolio, including a 'detached property.'

I need to become a BTL as I'm missing out.

1. Council worker (tick)

2. BTL porfolio (tick)

If you said 25 year old gas man i may be surprised, if he was 50 i would not.

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Been happening for years.

Councils pay quite nice wages to their repair staff.

The wages arent as good but its a cushty job working for the council in any sort a building work, according to friends.

Lots of older guys who are tired of working on a price.

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If you said 25 year old gas man i may be surprised, if he was 50 i would not.

Nope mid 30's and I posted this on my Facebook page and this was one of the responses..

Went to look at a house a few weeks ago and there was some others viewing. They looked about 21 and I overheard the girl say, "well, we will be renting it out anyway". Early 20's buying up property to rent out....

The photo of Cameron a few weeks ago with UK's budding young business people. Best most were either into BTL, or letting agents. A few Android app developers thrown in for balance. :lol::blink:

The Boomers have well and truly indoctrinated the young.

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It's a culture of laziness- these people think they can make money for not doing any work (once they have brought the property). Just sit back and watch the money (tax payers) role in. So far they seem to pulling it off though- as unfair as it is.

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Some maintenance guys who have been at the council for years will be on nearly £50k for something you would employ somebody new on for £20k. Genuinely, I have dealt with TUPEs, £40k - £45k is not uncommon for older staff.

This is a product of pathetic management over the years, typically the useless man management of councils mean that they start paying an attendance bonus, i.e. anybody who has less than 5 days off gets a 10% bonus. This is because they won't discipline staff for being useless so throw money at people to try to get them to work.

With this and the fact that their base salary was inflated above the rate of inflation in the good years until they end up on more than their newly-appointed manager.

As with pensioners in houses worth ten times what they paid for them it is not their fault. These guys who have been there that long are typically very good at their jobs, have stayed loyal to their employer and worked hard. They shouldn't be on those kind of packages but who is going to turn down a pay rise or bonus?

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that's good, it means the boomers have found someone to hold the bag so that the rug can soon be pulled.

In London we have johnny foreigner holding the bag.

The rest of the country we have help to buy, and the 25 to 25 year old crowd.

Once the portfolios have been offloaded (Wilsons, MP's etc) and the boomers head into retirement and don't want the hassle of dealing with dodgey letting agents and tenants you can be assured the rug on housing will be pulled.

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Preparing for his gold plated pension to be removed?

Or investing the money from his cash in hand jobs?

BTL was the easy way to wealth, it's not surprising that certain people jumped in to buy.

So he wasn't fitting council boilers into his properties then?

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Been happening for years.

Councils pay quite nice wages to their repair staff.

No surprises here either. Surely if BTL floats your boat then a secure council job might be a good financial base to launch from. My cousins boyfriend is retiring on a £108,000 lump sum and £19,000 index linked pension from the fire brigage and he is keen to get into BTL for something to do.

Also the Wilsons, need we say more.

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No surprises here either. Surely if BTL floats your boat then a secure council job might be a good financial base to launch from. My cousins boyfriend is retiring on a £108,000 lump sum and £19,000 index linked pension from the fire brigage and he is keen to get into BTL for something to do.

Also the Wilsons, need we say more.

Ever feel you made the wrong career decisions? :P

Really wish I'd gone into army/military/police/fire first, then become a council worker, then become a self employed BTL.

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Just has a man from the Council come round to service my boiler.

Got chatting about boiler sizes and he was telling me he would put a 28 kwh boiler 'in his properties' not a 32 which I have in my small flat.

He has quite a portfolio, including a 'detached property.'

I need to become a BTL as I'm missing out.

1. Council worker (tick)

2. BTL porfolio (tick)

A former girlfriend's brother was a gas engineer specialising in housing associations. This was ten years ago, and I gathered then he was on big money.

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Ever feel you made the wrong career decisions? :P

Really wish I'd gone into army/military/police/fire first, then become a council worker, then become a self employed BTL.

Indeed, don't do any work at school, go into manual work. But make sure it's with a public sector employer.

Made for life.

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Indeed, don't do any work at school, go into manual work. But make sure it's with a public sector employer.

Made for life.

Indeed but the local Council are about the only local body offering decent apprenticeships so if you want to become a tradesmen this would be the place to go. Everyone else just employs a Pole.

But its a source of annoyance for Council tenants (who work) because our rents which are going up above inflation pay for this nonsense. All the legacy Council housing has been farmed off to an ALMO, but with Council 'Building Services' contracted to do the repairs. Personally I'd like to see the ALMO put out contracts for tender with other repair firms.

Of course these Council employee/BTL's will still vote Labour and no doubt be members of NUPE.

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that's good, it means the boomers have found someone to hold the bag so that the rug can soon be pulled.

In London we have johnny foreigner holding the bag.

The rest of the country we have help to buy, and the 25 to 25 year old crowd.

Once the portfolios have been offloaded (Wilsons, MP's etc) and the boomers head into retirement and don't want the hassle of dealing with dodgey letting agents and tenants you can be assured the rug on housing will be pulled.

That does sound like the most probably outcome - unless that lot have encouraged their kids into the same 'investments'

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Really wish I'd gone into army/military/police/fire first, then become a council worker, then become a self employed BTL.

On the Norfolk coast there are a fair few who took this path and also sold an East-End terrace for 300K uplift.

It will take 40 years for 25 minimum wage / flat-sharing baristas to make a dent in that bill.

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I thought the council contracting companies in now to do their work. I didn't think they bothered employing their own workmen these days.

Recently, some council homes up from us have been refurbished, new kitchens, bathrooms central heating etc. Talking to one of the tenants it was contractors that were doing it all, the council were just overseeing it.

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I thought the council contracting companies in now to do their work. I didn't think they bothered employing their own workmen these days.

Recently, some council homes up from us have been refurbished, new kitchens, bathrooms central heating etc. Talking to one of the tenants it was contractors that were doing it all, the council were just overseeing it.

There is a general push to this but it is slow. I was involved in some of this (bids, transfers) hence the TUPE information.

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I thought the council contracting companies in now to do their work. I didn't think they bothered employing their own workmen these days.

Recently, some council homes up from us have been refurbished, new kitchens, bathrooms central heating etc. Talking to one of the tenants it was contractors that were doing it all, the council were just overseeing it.

It could be the guy that did my boiler was a self employed contractor. But he turned up in a Council van.

All the new social housing in town is a massive PFI pyramid.

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I thought the council contracting companies in now to do their work. I didn't think they bothered employing their own workmen these days.

Recently, some council homes up from us have been refurbished, new kitchens, bathrooms central heating etc. Talking to one of the tenants it was contractors that were doing it all, the council were just overseeing it.

Refurb is sep contractor who bid for the work. Cheapest usually wins and you know what you get when you go cheap.

There will still be workers to do regular maintenance. not presumably as many as there used to be.

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Maybe highly paid council repair men once existed in some authorities but of the 10 or so council's I have seen payroll info for over the last decade I've never come across one which was out of the ordinary.

Usually £20-35k (absolute tops with managerial responsibility) for qualified tradesmen.

Better than being an employee of a private company but far worse than being freelance.

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Maybe highly paid council repair men once existed in some authorities but of the 10 or so council's I have seen payroll info for over the last decade I've never come across one which was out of the ordinary.

Usually £20-35k (absolute tops with managerial responsibility) for qualified tradesmen.

Better than being an employee of a private company but far worse than being freelance.

Your area must be ahead of the south west then. Admittedly neither of the two TUPEs I dealt with were in the last two years, but I doubt it's gone away that quickly.

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Refurb is sep contractor who bid for the work. Cheapest usually wins and you know what you get when you go cheap.

There will still be workers to do regular maintenance. not presumably as many as there used to be.

Big payday check for the CEO of the winning company?

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Gas trained plumber specialists are well paid trades, always have been. Mind you the downside is they have to pay for expensive ongoing training.

Bloke I had round this morning to service two boilers and fit a radiator relieved me of £140.00 and he was here for just over two hours.

That was around the going rate and I only used him as he came recommended.

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