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Every time there is an announcement on employment figures or the monthly inflation report, Sky ALWAYS wheel out a talking head that ALWAYS talks in "positive" tones. Not once have i seen anyone who has questioned the figures, or even included a"but". Channel 4 is the only place to get a balanced view of what really is going on.

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Every time there is an announcement on employment figures or the monthly inflation report, Sky ALWAYS wheel out a talking head that ALWAYS talks in "positive" tones. Not once have i seen anyone who has questioned the figures, or even included a"but". Channel 4 is the only place to get a balanced view of what really is going on.

TPTB used to use the church to tell you what to think., now TV tells you....it';s no coincidence that churches are in decline and the state are happy to let them die.

I didn't watch TV for 2 years and couldn't believe what I saw when I watched it again.

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Who watches Sky News anyway? 'Impartiality' rules in this country mean they cant pursue the 'jerry springer of news broadcasting' model that has made Fox so successful in the US, so its just BBC news but with adverts every 5 minutes.

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It's true. I still watch the odd thing on catch up, but not having the idiot box glowing in the corner every night has been a liberating experience. You get your critical faculties back quite quickly and TV never looks the same again!

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Channel 4 is the only place to get a balanced view of what really is going on.

Yeah, just like UKIP is different. Behave.

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It's true. I still watch the odd thing on catch up, but not having the idiot box glowing in the corner every night has been a liberating experience. You get your critical faculties back quite quickly and TV never looks the same again!

So true, if only the sheeple would start switching off in their millions, THAT would be the real revolution.

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Who watches Sky News anyway? 'Impartiality' rules in this country mean they cant pursue the 'jerry springer of news broadcasting' model that has made Fox so successful in the US, so its just BBC news but with adverts every 5 minutes.

They don't have quite the same smug satisfied-with-themselvesness of the BBC, which is a plus. I quite like watching the press review.

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They don't have quite the same smug satisfied-with-themselvesness of the BBC, which is a plus. I quite like watching the press review.

Sky can be politically critical on occasion in a way that Auntie used to be before it was neutered by Blair.

As for putting a positive gloss on events? When did the TPTB ever not? 2007? 2009? 2011? A veritable parade of celebratory trumpets.

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LOL, C4 News tonight, about families in dept! Single mum of five, plus oldest daughter wants her baby to have a good Christmas. Seems like blatant propaganda to me, few will feel sympathy for a skint family in a big house, nice furniture, complaining the kids will be looked down on if they don't have the latest game for the latest console, that they already own. Hey but now it's a cultural issue! We have a culture of live now pay later. To sort the issue out.... More free MONEY.

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LOL, C4 News tonight, about families in dept! Single mum of five, plus oldest daughter wants her baby to have a good Christmas. Seems like blatant propaganda to me, few will feel sympathy for a skint family in a big house, nice furniture, complaining the kids will be looked down on if they don't have the latest game for the latest console, that they already own. Hey but now it's a cultural issue! We have a culture of live now pay later. To sort the issue out.... More free MONEY.

i watched that earlier, what shocked me the most was when the woman was taking out the xmas loan at the credit union the bank worker explained the contract and said youll pay the installments out of your childrens allowance!!!

Are loans granted on the basis that childrens benefits will be used to repay them?

Any sort of reputdable bank (lol) wouldnt accept a repayment plan from benefit payments would they? What with the rate benefits are being played about with by IDS & co?

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LOL, C4 News tonight, about families in dept! Single mum of five, plus oldest daughter wants her baby to have a good Christmas. Seems like blatant propaganda to me, few will feel sympathy for a skint family in a big house, nice furniture, complaining the kids will be looked down on if they don't have the latest game for the latest console, that they already own. Hey but now it's a cultural issue! We have a culture of live now pay later. To sort the issue out.... More free MONEY.

That piece was not about free money for consoles. It was about the commercialisation of Xmas, the rise of payday loan sharks and how those in society are caught between the two.

At best c4 news was arguing for a cap on the ridiculous interest rates Cameron's chums charge the poor.

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That piece was not about free money for consoles. It was about the commercialisation of Xmas, the rise of payday loan sharks and how those in society are caught between the two.

At best c4 news was arguing for a cap on the ridiculous interest rates Cameron's chums charge the poor.

This just makes me think benefits should be paid in vouchers. so no pay per tv , no games consoles , no alcohol , no cigs, no loans etc.

hopefully this would force people to behave more responsibly .

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This just makes me think benefits should be paid in vouchers. so no pay per tv , no games consoles , no alcohol , no cigs, no loans etc.

hopefully this would force people to behave more responsibly .

The government makes a killing on duty from booze and fags, so the benefits end up back on the treasury.

As for the sky package? Well even if most benefit families have it, which I don't really believe, that money goes into typeset Murdochs pocket so, again the government don't really care.

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i watched that earlier, what shocked me the most was when the woman was taking out the xmas loan at the credit union the bank worker explained the contract and said youll pay the installments out of your childrens allowance!!!

Are loans granted on the basis that childrens benefits will be used to repay them?

Any sort of reputdable bank (lol) wouldnt accept a repayment plan from benefit payments would they? What with the rate benefits are being played about with by IDS & co?

Tax credits and other benefits were used to calculate max credit limits at a now defunct sub prime finance company. I know this as I used to work there.

I can only presume the same for anyone else.

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Who watches Sky News anyway? 'Impartiality' rules in this country mean they cant pursue the 'jerry springer of news broadcasting' model that has made Fox so successful in the US, so its just BBC news but with adverts every 5 minutes.

Apparently Kay Burley's done more live broadcasting than any other presenter anywhere in the world.

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I haven't had a TV for over 13 years. I feel like Bob Newhart with his sitcom that had him as the only 'normal' person in the country.

Some stuff that crosses my mind. The first 2 wars on drugs were fought (and won) by the British against China. No mention of it at school. King George VI was the victim of regicide, no mention of it at school. The abdication of Edward VIII involved acts of treason. Once again, no mention of it at school. I've no idea what recent stuff is a fabrication.

I no longer trust main stream media.

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I haven't had a TV for over 13 years. I feel like Bob Newhart with his sitcom that had him as the only 'normal' person in the country.

Some stuff that crosses my mind. The first 2 wars on drugs were fought (and won) by the British against China. No mention of it at school. King George VI was the victim of regicide, no mention of it at school. The abdication of Edward VIII involved acts of treason. Once again, no mention of it at school. I've no idea what recent stuff is a fabrication.

I no longer trust main stream media.

Strange.

The Opium Wars were definitely on my GCE O level Cambridge history syllabus many years ago and they still are today according to the IGCE syllabus (though they may not be on the current National Curriculum)

http://www.cie.org.uk/images/88696-2013-syllabus.pdf

I am always puzzled by the claims that teaching children about Britain's role in the 18th-19th century drugs and slave trade were suppressed in this country when I distinctly remember both being taught and seeing exam questions on these subjects at school.

The people who have largely been written out of British history are not the foreigners we oppressed but the natives of the British isles who have expressed inconvenient ideas about the way things are run at home. For example, I would expect most Britons of my generation to know at least a little British imperial history but I doubt that many know anything about the writings of Tom Paine which played such a key role in inspiring the American War of Independence and to a lesser degree the French Revolution . No surprise to find that he was proponent of both a land value tax and a form of citizens income ideas which are regularly discussed on this forum but are still largely taboo in the mainstream media

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